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1 posted on 07/20/2005 7:24:48 PM PDT by hsmomx3
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I would never put that stuff on the ground with pets. I keep pond fish so it's out of the question.


2 posted on 07/20/2005 7:27:32 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: hsmomx3; HairOfTheDog

pinging a dog expert.BTW, the label should indicate what you're asking.


3 posted on 07/20/2005 7:28:24 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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Look at the packaging. There should either be instructions, or there should be a toll free number to call with questions.

If doggie can't go in the yard for a couple of days, I would board him someplace with air conditioning until it's safe.

Good luck, and you & doggie stay cool!


4 posted on 07/20/2005 7:30:25 PM PDT by passionfruit (Using the ethernet to try to catch the etherbunny.)
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"It's very hot here--at least 110 degrees and I figure it should dry quite fast. The guy said not to let the dogs out back for two days but this is almost impossible."

Listen to what you were told or else you'll pay dearly in vet bills. I once had a service come spray for termites and the guy said he put chemical spikes along the garage, wouldn't other my dogs. My puppy thought it was a treat and started chewing on it then foaming at the mouth. Nice vet bill for me. Lesson, poison, if it kills insects and weeds it will certainly harm your pets and maybe you too if used often enough.

I stopped using poisons on my lawn. My outdoors cats eat all the insect like the pesky large beetles. Try and find a natural alternative.


5 posted on 07/20/2005 7:32:48 PM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: hsmomx3

Look it up on the web if you can't read the label.

I wouldn't put animals on it until it's had time to work and THEN lots of rain or water to wash it in. The concern is not just for burns to their feet, but the reality that dogs do lick their feet as well.

Wait two days or until the plants you wanted killed are withered, then water it in very very well. Don't let the dog on it till then.


6 posted on 07/20/2005 7:33:21 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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Two ingedients in your herbicide: Glyphosate and Imazapyr.

Glyphosate (Roundup)

"Chronic toxicity: Studies of glyphosate lasting up to 2 years, have been conducted with rats, dogs, mice, and rabbits, and with few exceptions no effects were observed. For example, in a chronic feeding study with rats, no toxic effects were observed in rats given doses as high as 400 mg/kg/day. Also, no toxic effects were observed in a chronic feeding study with dogs fed up to 500 mg/kg/day, the highest dose tested."
Imazapyr:
"Imazapyr caused very few toxicological effects in subchronic, chronic and developmental/reproductive studies in laboratory animals. All of these toxicity studies were conducted at doses of 400 milligrams per kilogram body weight per day (mg/kg/day) or higher, except the chronic dog feeding study where the highest dose tested was 250 mg/kg/day. The USEPA Office of Pesticide Programs established a reference dose (RfD) of 2.5 mg/kg/day for imazapyr based on a no-observed-effect level (NOEL) of 250 mg/kg/day from the chronic feeding study in dogs and an uncertainty factor of 100. This RfD has not yet been adopted by the USEPA's Integrated Risk Information System (IRIS). Imazapyr did not cause oncogenic effects in either rat or mouse chronic feeding studies. It also was negative in a number of genotoxicity studies. The USEPA classified imazapyr as a Group E (evidence of noncarcinogenicity in humans) carcinogen."

They look pretty safe, but your the applicator-technician probably gave you good advice about keeping the dogs off it for a few days.

9 posted on 07/20/2005 7:37:05 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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Thanks for this thread. I was just reading instructions for killing off the old weeds to prepare for seeding a new lawn. This changes my mind due to my two dogs. Time to find another ground cover!


13 posted on 07/20/2005 7:53:48 PM PDT by Moonmad27
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I usually wait 24 hours before letting the dogs out.

A lot of these chemicals should be used in cooler weather, too. They usually recommend only using them below 90F.


15 posted on 07/20/2005 8:08:19 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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Someone came over and put Ortho® GroundClear® Complete Vegetation Killer Concentrate on our backyard.

What -- like as in vandalism? To kill off all your grass?

16 posted on 07/20/2005 10:17:09 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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Stop inviting people to poison your garden. Anything that's dangerous to pets is dangerous to wildlife too. If you want a lawn that looks like Astro-Turf, get Astro-Turf -- it's not poisonous.


17 posted on 07/21/2005 9:31:28 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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