[Chairman_December_19th_Society]

Post your short news items, issues of interest, links, and so on. All who advance the Cause are welcome.

LET'S ROLL!!!

[Chairman_December_19th_Society]

The President gave a very good speech last night, but there are still very serious issues of culpability, and possibly cover up, that need to be addressed!

[lysie]

Whoohoo! This first is for you, RD.

[Jemian]

Good morning. I have a tinfoil theory which I'll share in case Rush doesn't check the Dawn Patrol:

Tin foil hat time. I have been told all my life that communists don't really consider a large number of deaths to be consequential when it is a means to gain an end. At best human death is unfortunate but unavoidable to them. From the way things went down in NO, I'm wondering if Nagin and Blanco received their orders (from whatever central committee who is pulling their strings) to shut the people in and have them die. Then, they could go ahead with their blame game. The media would be focusing on the bodies and the culpability would have been minimized.

The deaths didn't occur as predicted and the scrutiny is beginning. /tinfoil with apologies for those who are reading this for a second time.

[lysie]

WOW!! Excellent!! Thank you. I'll use this, if needed, to shove down my screaming, liberal family members' throats who think its Bush's fault.

You are most definitely the Chairman.

[Carolinamom]

Excellent work, Chairman. Thank you for providing this clear timeline, which will come in handy for all of us.

[gulfcoast6]

Blame Bush, sure, right....GOOD A.M. TO ALL FROM THE HOT MISSISSIPPI GULF COAST, USA!!!!
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Suppose to rain this afternoon, might, could, not written in stone, dry as a bone, plants suffering, already lost one Azalea and others look sick. Will get wanter in the barrel and give them a drink today, rain or no rain.

Our AG and Gov are suing the insurance companies for beating the ensured out of coverage. The LAST place insurance companies want is their case be tried in Mississippi. Top class insurance companies being crooks.

Don't know about all this company, gotta smile and keep on keeping on, gotta realize it is the right thing to do but hey, D needs help and it is like a motel, she being the maid. I am really not this bitter at all but am starting to be. They all are going into town today and see the damage that was done by the storm, winds and water and I am staying here, ain't no way I am going.

Pot pies tonight, pot pies tomorrow night. Ummmmm D thinking.

This is low time for me right now, not use to all this traffic in the house, gonna get on my tractor and pick up limbs, etc., work out my anger.

Darn it, now they need to use the computer, oh well, I will be signing off, going to sit back and take 20 deep breaths and, the world will continue to turn. Toby

[Peach]

I'm still working my way through your fantastic opening and timeline. What a lot of work! Thank you.

I did not know this:

Gov. Blanco requests that President Bush declare a major disaster for the State of Louisiana as required by the Stafford Act. SPECIFICALLY MISSING FROM THIS REQUEST ARE THE FOLLOWING PARISHES: JEFFERSON, PLAQUEMINES, ST. BERNARD, AND ORLEANS. This means the Federal Government, BY LAW, is specifically PROHIBITED from providing aid to the areas most likely to be struck by KATRINA!

[Peach]

This is the most comprehensive list I've seen, Chair. I'm in awe.

This is being sent to news-friendly outlets. Thank you.

[kassie]

Outstanding start this morning.

This is the most detailed information I've ever seen on Katrina.

[danneskjold]

bump...

[chaosagent]

Great Work!

[Cboldt]

2:00 PM CT: New Orleans officials admit a breach in the 17th Street Levee. This resulted from the barge that broke loose slamming into the concrete overtop wall of the 17th Street Canal--this concrete barrier is several feet thick. The wall breaks, and the inundation of New Orleans commences. [The barge, incidentally, has been found at the bottom of the breach.]

Do you have a cite that points to a barge being associated with the 17th Street levee? All of the barge reports and photos that I am aware of associate a barge with the Industrial Canal.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1482715/posts?page=20#20
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1482715/posts?page=24#24
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/c.mcmahon4/nola/
http://www.nola.com/hurricane/t-p/katrina.ssf?/hurricane/katrina/stories/083005catastrophic.html
http://www.nola.com/hurricane/katrina/pdf/083005_a01a02.pdf

August 30, 2005 - The Louisiana governor still doesn't request Federal assistance.

This statment is false as stated, but could be true if made more specific.

http://www.gov.state.la.us/Press_Release_detail.asp?id=976 <- Aug 27 req. for some Fed assistance
http://www.yuricareport.com/Disaster/BlancoToPresident_letter8_28_05.html <- Aug 28 request

September 1, 2005 - Gov. Blanco finally signs Executive Order KBB-2005-23. This Order requests Federal assistance.

Hoo boy. I suggest you read the order, and KBB 2005-29 that folowed it (same thing, more or less). The orders don't perform the function you claim.

KBB 2005-23 dated Aug 31, 2005

Partial list of primary sources consulted for this article:
Blanco Refused To Act... Governor's Indecision Cost Precious Time

That article is not a good reference. See rebuttals (with cites) at posts 88, 91, 102, and 103.

[Two Thirds Vote Aye]

Chair, shouldn't you be copyrighting this excellent work?

[mountainfolk]

Thank you for laying out the time line for Katrina and her aftermath. Charles Kraut hammer, who has been critical of Pres Bush for, in CK's opinion, being slow to respond to Katrina, said last nite that the Governors and mayors of cities don't expect to have to handle such emergencies as Katrina. They expect the federal government to take over. I doubt that there is any other state Governor who would agree with him. The point is, as you have outlined the duties of the Governor and Mayor of NO to be, La did know and expect to have to deal with worst case scenarios of whatever nature. I hope the investigations in Louisiana are able to expose the rot that has bankrupted NO and paralyzed the whole state during a time of horrific crisis.

[CajunConservative]

Thanks for posting this timeline.

[johnny7]

Awesome work!

[hayburner]

Wonderful opening Chair. Much needed and I have printed this out as well as some of followup. This will be a good reference when the apologists appear at the inquiry. Stockpiling popcorn for the event.

Thanks

[lysie]

Great posts. Printing for further review. Thanks.

[lilylangtree]

Better timeline that "Fact Check". Thanks.

[Cboldt]

Here is a pair of regulations that I have been unable to reconcile.

Difficulty in coordination is routine even when nobody has self-serving ambitions; but this is a very strange mumbo-jumbo. I've asked my Senator to explain the relationship between these two rules. After noting the exact languge in the rules, I asked and opined ...

Does one rule have precedence over the other? If so, when? What is the formal mechanism that indicates a transition to FCO authority?

Given that Katrina is declared an Incident of National Significance, does this gives the FCO authority to override the Police in Gretna, Louisiana? See http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/09/13/katrina.bridge/

I advocate that you and the rest of Congress admit that government is a resource of last-resort, and that people need to look out for themselves because government is an entaglement of self-serving bureacracies.

TITLE 44--EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND ASSISTANCE
CHAPTER I--FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY, DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY
PART 206_FEDERAL DISASTER ASSISTANCE ...
http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_04/44cfr206_04.html

Subpart B_The Declaration Process
Sec. 206.42 Responsibilities of coordinating officers.

(b) The SCO [State Coordinating Officer - Mr. Art Jones] coordinates State and local disaster assistance efforts with those of the Federal Government working closely with the FCO. The SCO is the principal point of contact regarding coordination of State and local disaster relief activities, and implementation of the State emergency plan. The functions, responsibilities, and authorities of the SCO are set forth in the State emergency plan. It is the responsibility of the SCO to ensure that all affected local jurisdictions are informed of the declaration, the types of assistance authorized, and the areas eligible to receive such assistance.

Subpart C_Emergency Assistance
Sec. 206.64 Coordination of assistance.

After an emergency declaration by the President, all Federal agencies, voluntary organizations, and State and local governments providing assistance shall operate under the coordination of the Federal Coordinating Officer. [William Lokey named to handle Lousiana, by Michael D. Brown]