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ZOT! Army is Broken
Military Opinion ^ | October 13, 2005 | Joe Galloway

Posted on 10/17/2005 7:53:36 AM PDT by posey2004

Washington -- "Armies are fragile institutions and, for all their might, easily broken." Remember those words? They were written here, in this column, at the end of September 2003. I laid out the recipe for how to break a magnificent Army that had taken nearly two decades to rebuild itself in the wake of the Vietnam debacle.

In that early fall two years ago, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld was still running victory laps and the words of his boss, President George W. Bush, were still ringing: "Bring `em on!"

Sadly, those two were, and still are, in charge.

Now they've broken the Army, and after this administration is history, it will take 12 or 15 or 20 years to repair the damage it's inflicted on an institution that our country desperately needs in a century as dangerous as this one......................................


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1 posted on 10/17/2005 7:53:40 AM PDT by posey2004
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To: posey2004

"...to repair the damage it's inflicted on an institution that our country desperately needs in a century as dangerous as this one..."

Admits we need the Army in a dangerous time, yet condemns Bush for using it to counter this danger.


2 posted on 10/17/2005 7:56:12 AM PDT by Firefigher NC (Volunteer firefighters- standing tall, serving proud in the tradition of Ben Franklin.)
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To: posey2004

You could have a very strong well financed, well equipped and well staffed military if we weren't at war. I wartime, the military must perform, and that puts pressure on its resources.


3 posted on 10/17/2005 7:56:52 AM PDT by Brilliant
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WTF? Opinion is right. It's not secret that Bubba Clintoon gutted the military, but...IMHO it would seem the military, through combat action, is back on track.

"Military is broken" typical baloney from a defeatist numbskull with no understanding of history or current facts.


4 posted on 10/17/2005 7:57:31 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: posey2004

This piece was written by Joe Galloway. Who is he? Sounds like a Dem.


5 posted on 10/17/2005 7:58:16 AM PDT by AlienCrossfirePlayer (Missouri Gov. Matt Blunt for Vice President!)
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To: Firefigher NC

The fact is, is that Rumsfeld has lowered the standards in order to meet the recruitment goals. We will now be taking in drop-outs, and other low-standards individuals that may or may not meet the same fate as Lindey England.


6 posted on 10/17/2005 7:58:29 AM PDT by posey2004
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Joseph L. Galloway is the senior military correspondent for Knight Ridder Newspapers

Consider the source. And welcome to FR. Don't near any metal objects for the next few hours.

7 posted on 10/17/2005 7:59:05 AM PDT by anonymous_user (Russel Honore for President)
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Yeah, we should save up our forces for when we have a real war to fight, right joe?

One where our enemies attack our cities, and civilians?

Oh you mean the one JUST LIKE THIS ONE!


8 posted on 10/17/2005 7:59:34 AM PDT by American_Centurion (A liberal is a socialist who isn't quite willing to get blood on his hands yet. -KarlInOhio)
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To: posey2004

The guy who wrote this article is a complete jackass, and HE is the one that should be tarred and feathered. He has made no real claims, offers no solutions to his non-claims, and then blames haliburton, bush and rumsfeld. What an idiot!


9 posted on 10/17/2005 7:59:49 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Terrorists are murderers.........Feed them pork and kill them!)
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To: posey2004

Aside from the problem of low recruitment numbers/intelligence, signing bonuses, I'm not sure what is broken.

Is the Army effective in the field? If so, I don't see how it can be described as broken, but then I do not have an Army background .


10 posted on 10/17/2005 8:02:01 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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Are you some kind of military strategest or what? How many years did you spend in the military and what in your estimation makes it broken?


11 posted on 10/17/2005 8:02:21 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: AlienCrossfirePlayer


Joe Galloway, once upon a time...was a decent correspondent but dementia has set in.


12 posted on 10/17/2005 8:02:27 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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The opinion is because enlistments are down and training staff are being shifted to combat status that the Army is broken.

I disagree. The combat arm is at a razor sharp level with actual combat experience. The returning combat vets have skills that will beef up the training and support arms. Recruitment is down as the MSM media recently only shows the negative side of our combat engagements. When the embedded reporters had video of how good our troops were in the early days, young Americans were enlisting in numbers. The Army and our other services are doing a tough job very well and we salute them.


13 posted on 10/17/2005 8:02:59 AM PDT by RicocheT
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

I didn't expect this from Galloway...


14 posted on 10/17/2005 8:03:28 AM PDT by in the Arena
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To: posey2004

Funny, I thought it was broken after eight Clinton Defense budgets that resulted in not having body armor for 145,000 man invasion force.


Reenlistment rates are at record rates the active force, especially those that have done Iraq tours. What do they know that the Dems don't?


15 posted on 10/17/2005 8:03:37 AM PDT by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: joe fonebone

So, his political views are relative to the FACT that Rummy lowered the standards?

Look, I respect the military just as much as any of you, but lowering the standards = breaking the military, no matter how you look at it.

I can show you other op-eds, even reporting that proves such.


16 posted on 10/17/2005 8:03:41 AM PDT by posey2004
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The Army never should have stopped taking drop-outs.

There are tons of jobs Drop-outs can do, and it has a good chance of putting them back on track for a successful life.

Most jobs in the Army don't require soldiers to be all that well educated.

Never forget, educated does NOT equal smart.


17 posted on 10/17/2005 8:04:32 AM PDT by American_Centurion (A liberal is a socialist who isn't quite willing to get blood on his hands yet. -KarlInOhio)
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To: joe fonebone

bttt...


18 posted on 10/17/2005 8:05:36 AM PDT by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: posey2004
The WOT is the first big long war that the US have after the draft was eliminated. With horror stories from MSM we hear every day, is it a wonder that young people are afraid to join?
19 posted on 10/17/2005 8:05:40 AM PDT by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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You and the writer of this article are full of bullshi*!

Military broken? Tell that to our fine men and women in uniform then prepare yourself for the a**kicking you will get.

Puleeeezzzzzzzeeeee!


20 posted on 10/17/2005 8:06:28 AM PDT by Chuck54 (Free Tom DeLay)
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