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Soccer fans: ESPN World Cup coverage earns penalty
post gazette ^ | July 05, 2006 | Stefan Fatsis

Posted on 07/06/2006 8:55:05 AM PDT by stainlessbanner

The World Cup is generating record television audiences for soccer in the U.S. But some diehard fans think the coverage deserves a red card.

Walt Disney Co.'s ESPN and ABC have been hit with complaints from soccer devotees that their telecasts are unsophisticated and mistake-ridden. The popular Web site Big Soccer has a thread titled "Pick your favorite insane thing said by the announcers so far."

A major gripe: ESPN selected an announcer, Dave O'Brien, who had never called a soccer game before this year to serve as the tournament's lead play-by-play man. Some English-speaking viewers have switched to Spanish-language Univision, which has out-rated ESPN and its sister cable network ESPN2 on average for the tournament in Germany.

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"They're trying to give us all this information to show us how much they know," says Steven Cohen, who has bashed ESPN on his "World Soccer Daily" show on Sirius Satellite Radio. "All they're showing us is how much they don't know."

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The soccer executives opposed the appointment of Mr. O'Brien. Their argument: using an announcer unfamiliar with the sport might not help ratings but certainly could hurt them. "Would you ever put a guy who had never called a sport before ... in the World Series, the Super Bowl or the Olympics?" a senior U.S. soccer executive says. "Never."

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ESPN and Dave Obrien are boosting Univision's coverage.
1 posted on 07/06/2006 8:55:11 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: soccer_maniac; 04-Bravo; 1Old Pro; 6323cd; A Strict Constructionist; aequoanimo; AGreatPer; ...

ping


2 posted on 07/06/2006 8:55:45 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner


"Soccer", what's that?


3 posted on 07/06/2006 8:56:31 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: stainlessbanner

I thought ESPN was pretty good.


4 posted on 07/06/2006 8:57:18 AM PDT by AntiGovernment (A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.)
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To: in hoc signo vinces
"Soccer", what's that?

An obscure European activity. Stay away from it! ;-)
5 posted on 07/06/2006 8:58:07 AM PDT by AntiGovernment (A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.)
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To: stainlessbanner

Is there an ESPN announcer who knows anything about anything?


6 posted on 07/06/2006 8:58:20 AM PDT by Kokojmudd (Outsource GM to a Red State! Put Walmart in charge of all Federal agencies!)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

"Soccer", what's that?

Kickball for girly-men?


7 posted on 07/06/2006 9:00:01 AM PDT by Lexington Green (Medical Marijuana - ''But I don't WANNA arrest cancer patients....'')
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To: stainlessbanner
I've watched every game on Univision. EVERY GAME!

And I don't speak a word of Spanish.

I've replayed the Univision feed (and announcer's call) of the 2 Italy goals in the semi-final about 4 times already.

Almost gives me goose-bumps, and I was actually rooting for Germany (a little).

8 posted on 07/06/2006 9:00:06 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: stainlessbanner

It's like bringing in a rookie broadcaster to call the World Series. O'Brien was over his head, had little to no history on the teams and players, and emphasised the wrong things. In our house, we turned off the sound and my teenaged soccer playing daughter made the calls.


9 posted on 07/06/2006 9:00:06 AM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: safeasthebanks
I admittedly watch some of Univision as well. However, the added value is that they have tons of good looking women on that channel.

ESPN's coverage has been pretty good, considering that they are almost novices at doing so.

10 posted on 07/06/2006 9:02:51 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Lexington Green

Please, enlighten us all with your athletic exploits....


11 posted on 07/06/2006 9:03:32 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: safeasthebanks

Germany played a great game except in the last two minutes. That is the nature of soccer, and you have to be on it every minute - mistakes are punished, and mistakes in the World Cup especially so. Ask the US mens team. It may be that the US will be able to rightfully say that they played the world champion team to a draw. Yes it was an own goal that equalized, but own goals don't just happen. They are generally the result of overwhelming pressure by the opposing team.


12 posted on 07/06/2006 9:03:33 AM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

Football where people actually use their feet??


13 posted on 07/06/2006 9:03:57 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stainlessbanner
Too many ESPN people are clueless about soccer, but it's quite a bit better than what it used to be.
I actually found the lady they had in the ESPN studio(Julie Fowdy?) for the World Cup to be quite knowledgable about the game.
14 posted on 07/06/2006 9:04:28 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: stainlessbanner

Eastcoast Sports Propoganda Network


15 posted on 07/06/2006 9:04:58 AM PDT by 38special (I mean come'on.)
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To: stainlessbanner

Saying the Spanish stations are getting a lot of viewers because of the poor ESPN announcing overlooks that fact that the Spanish audience is more into soccer than the anglo crowd is and also overlooks all the people who watch the games on the Spanish stations simply because they don't have cable.
If the non-Spanish-speaking viewers were wanting to avoid the ESPN announcers I would think they would be more likely just to turn down the volume rather than switch to a station where they can't understand the language at all.


16 posted on 07/06/2006 9:05:15 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: stainlessbanner

Soccer: A real man's sport.
17 posted on 07/06/2006 9:05:15 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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To: KC_Conspirator

That's just it. They are NOT NOVICES. ESPN has been broadcasting WC games since the '86 tournament. That means this is the 6th tourney they've done, with some of the same people calling the game, and they've gotten NO BETTER! They've even regressed in some ways.


18 posted on 07/06/2006 9:05:31 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: stainlessbanner

Here in Canada all the games are televised, split between CTV and TSN. One network runs a game live and the other does the repeat later in the day. It's actually a warm up for how they'll team up for the next Olympics. The play by play is the ITN feed from England and the coverage has been excellent.


19 posted on 07/06/2006 9:05:48 AM PDT by mitchbert (Facts Are Stubborn Things .)
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To: stainlessbanner

“During an earlier game, an announcer referred to a team in Scotland as Glasgow United. The correct name is Rangers.”

Heh, he’d better steer clear of any Celtic fans for a while :o)


“During a first-round match, ESPN nearly missed a goal by Mexico because a producer had cut to videotape of the U.S. team practicing.”

Oooh, that is really bad.

I have to say, watching soccer with foreign commentators really doesn’t hurt that much if you know the game. You might miss the odd detail but not having to listen to bad commentary is adequate compensation.


20 posted on 07/06/2006 9:06:27 AM PDT by FostersExport
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