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Zidane apparently called 'son of a terrorist whore'...(Drudge headline)
Drudge Report and Times Online ^ | 10 July 06 | Matt Hughes

Posted on 07/10/2006 7:32:00 PM PDT by SkyPilot

Our correspondent finds out what may have caused a great player to lose his head in such spectacular style

WITH his monkish mien backed by a sense of brooding menace, Zinédine Zidane has always been something of an enigma, so it is perhaps fitting that the final act of his career should be the source of such mystery. Just why did a man blessed with complete control of a football lose his head in such a violent manner at such a crucial moment, boring it into the chest of Marco Materazzi?

As L’Equipe summed up the moment of madness with a headline of “Regrets Éternels”, a day of endless questioning began. With many conflicting versions of events circling on the internet and in the world’s media, The Times enlisted the help of an expert lip reader, Jessica Rees, to determine the precise nature of the dialogue that caused Zidane to react in such a manner.

After an exhaustive study of the match video, and with the help of an Italian translator, Rees claimed that Materazzi called Zidane “the son of a terrorist whore” before adding “so just f*** off” for good measure, supporting the natural assumption that the Frenchman must have been grievously insulted.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: 1billionfans; 1sport; calcio; copamundial; france; fussball; futbol; germany; italy; muslim; soccer; whore; worldcup; zidane; zizou
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I was waiting for this. I knew there would be some sort of "I am Muslim and I am a victim" defense.


1 posted on 07/10/2006 7:32:04 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Truth hurts?


2 posted on 07/10/2006 7:34:10 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: SkyPilot

Not to defend Zidane at all (he should have retaliated, but there were better times and ways to do it), but if the Italian called Zidane himself a 'terrorist', that's one thing. But he brought his mother into it. That's what we call "fighting words."


3 posted on 07/10/2006 7:34:48 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SkyPilot
Actually, that has been confirmed by Italian lip readers who passed what was said to the BBC. Zidane was also told to go "f himself." The Italian wished Zidane's mother, who is ill, "an ugly death."

It doesn't excuse the head-butting, but it's more than self-pity or Muslim victimhood. The Italian is a despicable man himself and I hope he ends up in Serie C1 with Jueventus.
4 posted on 07/10/2006 7:35:06 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: SkyPilot

Big effin' deal. Your average playground basketball game has worse taunts.


5 posted on 07/10/2006 7:35:19 PM PDT by TheRealDBear
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To: SkyPilot
Oh boo hoo. Trash talk in professional sports has been around as long as professional sports.

He got suckered in to taking a cheap shot, and couldn't resist the temptation. Life is tough, and I can't seem to find a reason to care about his whining over his display of weakness.
6 posted on 07/10/2006 7:35:34 PM PDT by Pox (If it's a Coward you are searching for, you need look no further than the Democrats.)
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To: SkyPilot

Hey, the Iranian National Team could use a coach with motivational skills like Zidane's. ;)


7 posted on 07/10/2006 7:36:12 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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A clarification to my comment:

I don't think Zidane has given a statement yet as to what words were exchanged. The "son of a terrorist whore" translation came from the lip reader.

8 posted on 07/10/2006 7:38:18 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot; JRios1968

Although it does appear that this was actually said, Zidane should've kept his head. Smack about your mom especially with her being ill and all that aside, you can't allow the players of another team to get into your head given the situation. Just beat them on the scoreboard.

I mean, did you EVER hear of MIchael Jordan kneeing someone in the crotch because they talked about his dad or Joe Montana ear-holing someone after a play because they made fun of his 80s mullet?

Nope.

How very soccer of him.


9 posted on 07/10/2006 7:38:41 PM PDT by MikefromOhio
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Taunting the person himself is one thing, talking about his mother like that, especially when she was ill, frankly deserved some kind of action, I wouldn't blame have blamed Zidane at all, had it not been such a violent retaliation. That being said, Zidane had to be tossed, there was no other way. But as they say, there are always two sides to every story, and it's usually only the retaliator that gets caught.


10 posted on 07/10/2006 7:39:21 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SkyPilot

Yet they don't tell us in what language the alleged insult was hurled. Seems to be you know, the most damn critical piece of information here so others can independently verify the lip reading.

Italian, French, English?


11 posted on 07/10/2006 7:39:41 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: SkyPilot

aside all specualtion.. he fudged up big time... it's like Mike Tyson bitting off that ear..


12 posted on 07/10/2006 7:40:34 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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Hi dfwgator-

Zidane walked right into their trap if the Italians truly believed they could make him lose his cool. The best response would have been for Zidane to put another one in the back of the net during overtime if he really wanted to anger his opponents.

~ Blue Jays ~

13 posted on 07/10/2006 7:40:39 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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Zidane hasn't made that sort of self-aggrandizing defense. He hasn't said anything about what happened at all. The Times got a lipreader to figure out what the Italian must have said. From Wikipedia:

Since both players refused to comment on the incident, there are various allegations about what led to Zidane's violent outburst. His agent, Alain Migliaccio has claimed that a "very serious" comment by Materazzi provoked the attack.[7] Reportedly, the deaf forensic lip-reader Jessica Rees was employed to analyze the video sequences with the help of an Italian translator. According to these reports, Materazzi spoke in Italian - a language understood by Zidane due to his time spent with Juventus F.C. - and first told him: "Hold on, wait, that one's not for a nigger like you." As the players walked forward, Materazzi allegedly said: "We all know you are the son of a terrorist whore." Then, just before the headbutt, he was seen saying: "So just fuck off."

You can think less of him for losing his temper, but it's not fair to claim that he is crying victimhood.

14 posted on 07/10/2006 7:41:12 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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I mean, did you EVER hear of MIchael Jordan kneeing someone in the crotch because they talked about his dad

You could bet if someone had the lack of class to talk badly about Jordan's dad, especially after his murder would have probably gotten a well-deserved ass kicking from Mike. The fact is nobody would have stooped to that level, even in the thuggish NBA.

15 posted on 07/10/2006 7:41:28 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: worst-case scenario

See post #8.


16 posted on 07/10/2006 7:42:13 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: worst-case scenario

Zidane calmly walked off the field, he knew he probably deserved what he got and didn't argue.


17 posted on 07/10/2006 7:42:18 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: MikefromOhio
I mean, did you EVER hear of MIchael Jordan kneeing someone in the crotch because they talked about his dad or Joe Montana ear-holing someone after a play because they made fun of his 80s mullet?

The difference is that they were playing REAL sports for grown-ups.

18 posted on 07/10/2006 7:43:04 PM PDT by JRios1968 (There's 3 kinds of people in this world...those who know math and those who don't.)
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To: Blue Jays

In hindsight, Zizou is probably telling himself that exact thing right now, but in the heat of the moment, he lost it.


19 posted on 07/10/2006 7:43:52 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SkyPilot

The obvious question...what did Zidane say or do that would cause the Italian player to say such a thing?


20 posted on 07/10/2006 7:45:19 PM PDT by YaYa123
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