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1 posted on 08/19/2006 10:51:38 PM PDT by MrClose
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To: MrClose

This post should probably be in Vanity. Activism/Chapters is for Freeper get togethers (like against the Code Pink commies).


2 posted on 08/19/2006 10:55:28 PM PDT by burzum (Despair not! I shall inspire you by charging blindly on!--Minsc, BG2)
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To: MrClose

My advice: Turn your back on them, stock up on survival supplies, get a gun (or several), stock up on LOTS of ammoa and practice, practice, practice.

Just because they want to be sheep doesn't mean YOU have to.


3 posted on 08/19/2006 10:55:59 PM PDT by hoagy62 (America: SUPREME!)
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To: MrClose

I find that persons argue over symptoms instead of foundations. I ask them for their foundations; first, what do they believe government should do. Then I compare that to our constitution.

Many times I end up asking, "so, you know virtually nothing about our constitution?"


4 posted on 08/19/2006 11:07:11 PM PDT by Loud Mime (An undefeated enemy is still an enemy.......war has a purpose.)
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To: MrClose
Prepare yourself and your family and ignore the MSM.

The MSM wants you to believe that the Government is the answer for all your needs and fears...... 100% Horse-Hockey. When the crap hits the fan we will rise up and destroy our enemies.

These dead enders believe their deaths will advance their cause, while we believe killing them will advance ours..... It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the odds are not in favor of a 9th Century false religion

5 posted on 08/19/2006 11:08:22 PM PDT by MJY1288 (THE DEMOCRATS OFFER NOTHING FOR THE FUTURE AND THEY LIE ABOUT THE PAST)
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To: MrClose

The AA prayer is applicable here. Sometimes, you can't help them.


6 posted on 08/19/2006 11:11:11 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: MrClose

Or it could be that you suffer from delusions of grandeur.


7 posted on 08/19/2006 11:21:57 PM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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HOW do you convince your friends, your family .. your loved ones that "There Is A Crisis" in America

First of all quit using the word crisis. This word is so overused today that it does not carry the meaning that it once did. Today it simply means the big news story of the moment with a connotation of possible danger.

9 posted on 08/19/2006 11:32:20 PM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: MrClose

Here's your answer: don't give yourself the headache. Accept them for the flawed and deluded people they are. You have to let them continue in their ways until they can't reconcile the cognitive dissonance anymore. At that point they will change with no effort on your part. By trying to convince them, you will only retard the process by making them dig in to their delusions and hold onto them all the more tightly.


10 posted on 08/19/2006 11:33:04 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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You might be able to change the mind of the committed but you can never change the mind of the should be committed.

It is up to you to decide if you want them in your life. As for me I don't want to closely know anyone that does not get it. This is a different world we live in now and I have no time nor a heart for anyone that does not put America and our freedom and liberty ahead of touchie feelie leftest thinking.

There IS a crisis and it did not just begin on 9-11. It began long before that, if they did not care about our Marines when they were killed in Beirut, Pan Am flight in 1988, the first World Trade Center bombing, the USS Cole attack etc. then 9-11 is just another day for them to blame the USA for not being nice to Muslims. I want nothing to do with human beings that don't get it. I just don't let them into my personal life, even if they are family. Nope, not any more. Our troops don't deserve people like that and neither does America.

11 posted on 08/19/2006 11:46:16 PM PDT by Brandie (Support American troops and the IDF or bug off and stay out of my life.)
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To: MrClose

Yeah unfortunately I think most of these posters on this thread are correct; there is nothing you can do about your friends and family. If they want to stick to their childish and hypocritical notions, there's nothing you can do about it. I point out the obvious contradictions in everyday conversations with them and laugh about it a little, but I don't push it like I used to. When my sister tries to needle me about "those poor Palestinians" and "free health care" I just ignore her and treat her comments as sophomoric.

I've just decided to take all that energy and instead learn Arabic, read up on military history, prepare my family, etc. (Haven't gotten so far as to buy and learn how to take care of a gun, I'm a little too klutzy for that and would probably shoot myself in the foot! :) )

Actions speak louder than words. Perhaps when they find out I am doing all this stuff they will take this more seriously and realize that this is for real. But then I wouldn't hold my breath either...


17 posted on 08/20/2006 1:25:20 AM PDT by BamaGirl (The Framers Rule!)
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