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Mystery Solved: Chemicals Made Stradivarius Violins Unique
Texas A&M University ^ | 11/29/06 | Joseph Nagyvary

Posted on 11/29/2006 11:42:34 AM PST by Teflonic

Answering a question that has lingered for centuries, a team of scientists has proved that chemicals used to treat the wood used in Stradivarius and Guarneri violins are the reasons for the distinct sound produced by the world-famous instruments.

The conclusions, published in the current issue of Nature magazine, have confirmed 30 years of work into the subject by Joseph Nagyvary, professor emeritus of biochemistry at Texas A&M University, who was the first to theorize that chemicals – not necessarily the wood – created the unique sound of the two violins. Nagyvary teamed with collaborators Joseph DiVerdi of Colorado State University and Noel Owen of Brigham Young University on the project.

“This research proves unquestionably that the wood of the great masters was subjected to an aggressive chemical treatment and the chemicals – most likely some sort of oxidizing agents – had a crucial role in creating the great sound of the Stradivarius and the Guarneri,” Nagyvary says.

“Like many discoveries, this one could have been accidental. Perhaps the violin makers were not even aware of the acoustical effects of the chemicals. Both Stradivari and Guarneri wanted to treat their violins to prevent worms from eating away the wood. They used some chemical agents to protect the wood from worm infestations of the time, and the unintended consequence from these chemicals was a sound like none other,” he adds.

The team tested several instruments, including violins and cellos, produced by Stradivari and Guarneri from 1717 to around 1741, using spectra analysis and other methods.

The results and those previously reported by Nagyvary showed that two specific areas of the instruments accounted for their unique sound – chemicals used in the varnish and fillers of the instruments, and the overall wood treatment process used by Stradivari and Guarneri.

“This is highly gratifying for me, because it proves what I first proposed 30 years ago – that the chemicals used to treat instruments and not the unadulterated wood itself – were the reasons for the great sound of these instruments,” Nagyvary explains.

“I was criticized and ridiculed when I made these claims, and to have undeniable scientific proof that I was correct is very satisfying, to say the least.”

Antonio Stradivari (1644 to 1737) made about 1,200 violins in his lifetime and kept a large inventory of them, and would only sell one when he was ready to part with it. Today, there are only about 600 Stradivarius violins remaining and they are valued at up to $5 million each.

Although lesser known, Guarneri del Gesu was a contemporary of Stradivari and his instruments are considered equal in quality and price by experts.

Nagyvary, a native of Hungary who learned to play the violin by using an instrument that once belonged to Albert Einstein, has wondered for years how Stradivari, who could barely read and had no scientific training, could have produced instruments with such a pristine sound.

“I started researching this in the early 1970s and from the beginning, I was convinced that the chemicals used to treat the instruments were the real key, not the wood itself,” he says.

There is still a missing piece of the puzzle, Nagyvary believes.

“The next step is to identify the chemical agents involved. To do that, more precious wood samples are needed,” he adds.

“But in the past, there has been a lack of cooperation from the antique violin business, and that has to be overcome. It may help us to produce violins and other instruments one day that are just as good as the million-dollar Stradivarius. And this research could also tell us ways to better preserve instruments, too.”


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: music; stradivarius; violin
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Stradivarius knockoffs coming soon...
1 posted on 11/29/2006 11:42:38 AM PST by Teflonic
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To: Teflonic

And "Chemicals" are probably what made the Grateful Dead's music sound better than it actually was.


2 posted on 11/29/2006 11:44:59 AM PST by Mr. Brightside ("You people make me stink!")
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To: Teflonic

Wal-Mart!


3 posted on 11/29/2006 11:45:14 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Teflonic

It must be nice to have nothing better to do for 30 years. Who paid him?


4 posted on 11/29/2006 11:46:31 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Teflonic
I once saw a show that claimed that the sound was produced bec of the wood used. What made the wood unique was that it came from timber floated down river. During the weeks it was immersed in water the timber would become infested with very small worms that burrowed into the the interior. The boards or planks cut from the timber and used to make the violins vibrated differently because of the almost microscopic holes.

For some reason I like this explanation much better.
5 posted on 11/29/2006 11:50:31 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: sitetest

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6 posted on 11/29/2006 11:52:59 AM PST by ZGuy
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To: ZGuy; 1rudeboy; 31R1O; afraidfortherepublic; Andyman; Argh; aristotleman; baa39; Bahbah; bboop; ...

Dear ZGuy,

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sitetest


7 posted on 11/29/2006 12:02:52 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Don Corleone
“I was criticized and ridiculed when I made these claims

I really doubt anybody actually ridiculed him for suggesting that the way the wood was treated might have had a big effect on the sound the instruments made. It's not exactly a whack-job theory.

8 posted on 11/29/2006 12:06:33 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Don Corleone
It must be nice to have nothing better to do for 30 years. Who paid him?

Texas A&M. They are big on agricultural stuff - figures they'd find somebody interested in wooden instruments and how they were made.
9 posted on 11/29/2006 12:08:41 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: 1rudeboy

Oak Street!


10 posted on 11/29/2006 12:09:52 PM PST by Silly (Still being... Silly)
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To: Teflonic
Knock offs? I know of one maker here in the southwest, and he would never copy a Stradivarius...check out his website here. The wait is at least two years from ordering. A good violin isn't made overnight
11 posted on 11/29/2006 12:10:36 PM PST by Issaquahking (Trust can't be bought)
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To: Silly
Completely off-topic, I know, but somebody should photoshop Shatner in The Wrath of Khan screaming, WAL-MART!
12 posted on 11/29/2006 12:13:33 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Lee'sGhost

***For some reason I like this explanation much better.***

I do, too. It makes sense, doesn't it?


13 posted on 11/29/2006 12:13:50 PM PST by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: Teflonic
I have a Sears "Strad" manufactured in the 1903-4 time period. If I'm not mistaken there was an article in SciAm which attributed the Strad's sound quality to the veneer that was applied. The "Red Violin" is a good flick about violin veneers!

BTW I saw "In the Good Old Summer Time" starring Judy Garland and "Chuckles" who has a Strad. This movie has been made several times, Earlier with Jimmy Stewart and most recently with Meg Ryan "You've got Mail!"

14 posted on 11/29/2006 12:18:55 PM PST by Young Werther
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To: Lee'sGhost

Perhaps the varnish chemicals filled the tiny holes, creating a sounding board density/diversity in resonance unique to the wood with the holes. ... Just a thought.


15 posted on 11/29/2006 12:23:34 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Teflonic

WAL MART BABY!!!


16 posted on 11/29/2006 12:48:17 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: Lee'sGhost
Your post made me pine for a Tequila Worm Sunrise.

Ole!

Leni

18 posted on 11/29/2006 2:35:35 PM PST by MinuteGal (The Left takes power only through deception.)
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To: Lee'sGhost
During the weeks it was immersed in water the timber would become infested with very small worms that burrowed into the the interior. The boards or planks cut from the timber and used to make the violins vibrated differently because of the almost microscopic holes.

Could be the reason he treated the wood in the first place. To kill the parasites. Both conditions might account for the unique sound.

19 posted on 11/29/2006 3:10:01 PM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: sitetest

Ive long suspected that the composition of the finish may have influenced the tone


20 posted on 11/29/2006 4:04:02 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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