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Just a rotten case: As the prosecution of Duke's lacrosse players unravels,
The Plain Dealer ^ | 1/7/07

Posted on 01/07/2007 10:45:17 AM PST by Winged Hussar

Then, just last month, the director of a DNA laboratory that tested samples taken from the woman testified that he and the prosecutor had agreed in May to withhold some of the findings. The exculpatory nature of the results - specifically, that the swabs included traces of semen from several men, none of them the Duke defendants - offer the strongest evidence yet that the prosecutor himself should be the subject of an investigation, and that he should have no further connection with this case.

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A column by Thomas Sowell adds that Nifong's motive in not dropping the other charges could be to pressure the accused lacrosse players into pleading guilty to a lesser charge. He advises them not to make any such deal.

If I were in the players' place and Nifong suggested a plea bargain, I would tell him to his face--with the vilest profanity imaginable, reflecting on his personal character, ethics, and honor--what he could do with it, while adding that I would spend the rest of my life making sure that any disciplinary actions taken against him by his bar association (assuming that it finds him guilty of the ethics charges) follow him for the rest of his career. I would add that his family members and relatives will probably, (again, assuming that he is found guilty of the ethics charges), have to change their names from "Nifong" to anything else.

If Nifong is found guilty on the ethnics charges, a new verb, "to Nifong someone," should enter our vocabulary. E.g. "Wall Street Journal columns by Dorothy Rabinowitz show how the Amiraults and Grant Snowden were Nifonged by less-than-ethical prosecutors for personal political gain."

1 posted on 01/07/2007 10:45:18 AM PST by Winged Hussar
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To: Winged Hussar

I've heard a claim that early on in this case ESPN reported that an "anonamous" source (one of the members of the Duke team who was at the party?) admitted that he and other members did have sex with the stripper while she was unconscious. I'm wondering if there is any validity to there being such a report from ESPN? I've not heard any such claim having been reported anywhere. Can anyone help on this?


2 posted on 01/07/2007 10:55:55 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier fighting the terrorists in Iraq)
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To: Winged Hussar

The verb form of the thing will likely be "nife" as in " I've been nifed". This is the first time anybody has tried anything similar to one of Janet Reno's witchcraft persecutions in the internet age, a dozen years ago the Fong would have easily skated by with it. In fact there's one poor SOB (Frank Fuster) still rotting in a Flori-Duh prison for one of Reno's imaginary ritual abuse cases and you'd like to think that a republican governor like Jeb Bush might have done something about that by now...


3 posted on 01/07/2007 11:00:08 AM PST by jeddavis
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To: SoldierDad
Have heard absolutely no such claim.

But Nifong said a lot of crazy stuff that has since been proven completely unfounded, so did the usual fasci-feminist suspects on the talk shows. Some of it they attributed to "people close to the case" or "investigators". So it wouldn't surprise me if Nifong made up an "anonymous source" to bolster his case. He's broken just about every other ethical and prosecutorial rule, why not?

4 posted on 01/07/2007 11:00:25 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Winged Hussar

This whole sordid affair is surreal to say the least. Reality seems to elude people, namely the race baiters and the mentally afflicted enemy within.


5 posted on 01/07/2007 11:02:30 AM PST by commonguymd
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To: SoldierDad

What ever happened to tar and feathers, or being ridden out of town on a rail, or two rails, one for Nifong, one for the star slut of this story.


6 posted on 01/07/2007 11:03:50 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (Peace through strength.)
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To: SoldierDad

If they'd had sex with her, why was there NO DNA from ANY of the Duke players? And not just no semen from them in her vagina or rectum, but no trace DNA from hair, saliva, sweat,
etc . No one at that party had sex or any intimate contact with her. Five other men (none of them her boyfriend in name) did have sex with her on the day of the so-called rape-but not the Duke 3.


7 posted on 01/07/2007 11:05:04 AM PST by Verloona Ti
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To: SoldierDad

"I'm wondering if there is any validity to there being such a report from ESPN?"

A few weeks ago, they broke the news that Rich Rodriguez had accepted the head coaching job at Alabama. No truth to that either.


8 posted on 01/07/2007 11:07:40 AM PST by FreeInWV
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To: AnAmericanMother

Yeah, I'd not heard any such claim either. I had a "conversation" with my son who claimed he heard a report on ESPN where someone on the team (who was not identified) claimed that those arrested in the case were indeed guilty, and my son bought the claim (if ESPN actually reported such a thing). Funny how ESPN could have made such a report but that it not be followed up on by any other news source. I'm not buying that someone made such a claim in truth, but my son tends to accept what he hears more easily. Your scenereo seems more likey to be what actually occurred.


9 posted on 01/07/2007 11:08:27 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier fighting the terrorists in Iraq)
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To: SoldierDad; Howlin; abb; Locomotive Breath

No way. Timelines and DNA evidence (or lack thereof) say that is impossible.

Pinging the usual crew. This one was already published, right? Glad to see it getting printed more widely.


10 posted on 01/07/2007 11:09:16 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: SoldierDad
I would put it down to having mis-heard some speculation.

There just isn't any way any of those boys could have had sex with her and left NO DNA. Not physically possible.

11 posted on 01/07/2007 11:11:40 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: abb; abner; Alia; AmishDude; AntiGuv; BerniesFriend; beyondashadow; Bitter Bierce; bjc; ...
DUKELAX PING!!!
12 posted on 01/07/2007 11:11:55 AM PST by Howlin (Not voting GOP was like being thirsty but not drinking since the glass is only 75% full ~~SoCalPol)
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To: Verloona Ti

ahem...they didn't test the black player.


13 posted on 01/07/2007 11:13:33 AM PST by stylin19a
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To: SoldierDad

I never heard such a claim and I've read or heard virtually everything there is to read and see about this case.

I have heard that "someone" offered her millions of dollars to drop the charges, but that came from her crazy cousin, Jakki, or however you spell it and I've never read it anywhere else.

The Rape Nazis on TV keep saying that "someone" has given Nifong something; quite simply, there is nothing to give.


14 posted on 01/07/2007 11:14:26 AM PST by Howlin (Not voting GOP was like being thirsty but not drinking since the glass is only 75% full ~~SoCalPol)
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To: stylin19a

That's a crappy thing to say; he has been out defending them.


15 posted on 01/07/2007 11:15:10 AM PST by Howlin (Not voting GOP was like being thirsty but not drinking since the glass is only 75% full ~~SoCalPol)
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To: Verloona Ti

My son claims that one of the Duke players not charged (but also not named by any source) was reported to have admitted that they did have sex with the stripper while she was unconscious, but that they used condoms. Supposedly this was reported by ESPN early in the investigation according to my son. Everything I've heard from the beginning of this case contradicts such a claim, but who knows what stories I might have missed. I'd think that if ESPN actually made such a report that other news sources would have also brought this up, but I've not read or heard from any other source regarding this. I'm not buying that some player who was never considered a suspect came out and made such a claim. Maybe Nifong believed there was someone on the team who made this claim and that was what he thought his ace in the hole was.


16 posted on 01/07/2007 11:15:31 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier fighting the terrorists in Iraq)
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To: SoldierDad

If you didn't hear it, don't have any verification that the claim was made on ESPN, it's hard to fathom why you would repeat such a scurrilous claim.


17 posted on 01/07/2007 11:18:56 AM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: Howlin

almost as crappy as not testing the everyone on the team.


18 posted on 01/07/2007 11:19:03 AM PST by stylin19a
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To: sgtbono2002

Lets all hold our breath until the new black panther party apologizes for it's TV news love fest claiming da sistah waz ronged!

OK,, you can exhale now, just kidding.


19 posted on 01/07/2007 11:19:47 AM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: SoldierDad

The prosecutor had to turn over everything in his evidence file to the defense. Whatever your son told you, if there was anything like this in the defense file, I am certain we'd have heard it.


20 posted on 01/07/2007 11:20:30 AM PST by the Real fifi
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