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Dr. Strangelove
me ^ | 5/25/07

Posted on 05/25/2007 7:22:02 PM PDT by LouAvul

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To: LouAvul

“....You could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.”


21 posted on 05/26/2007 12:14:09 AM PDT by Petronski (Fred!)
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To: LouAvul
I was at a meeting at work one day and was in a strange dark-humor mood. I calmly explained to our visitors that the mens and ladies room door codes were some variation of Peace On Earth or Purity Of Essence and that they should try all combinations to see which worked.

Only one of our guests got the joke.
22 posted on 05/26/2007 12:16:25 AM PDT by cgbg (A cigar a day keeps the liberals away.)
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To: secretagent
I've read enough stuff about Sterling Hayden over the years to come to think that the General Ripper character was not too far off from the real Hayden. I don't think it's any accident that he was picked for the role, or that he was able to play a dead-eyed loonie so perfectly.

I saw him on the Carson show once, going off about everything and every one. Carson couldn't control the situation and had to lean back with a sick grin on his face as Hayden acted the perfect mentally disturbed guest catching the interviewer and producer by surprise. That was the only time I ever saw Carson at a complete loss and paralyzed into inaction.


23 posted on 05/26/2007 3:45:50 AM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: Petronski

Did you know the original line was “...pretty good weekend in Dallas...?” They had finished shooting when the Kennedy assassination happened, so they dubbed “Vegas.” If you watch Slim Pickens’s lips, you can see it.


24 posted on 05/26/2007 8:49:06 AM PDT by Paul Heinzman (Mr. Reagan I wish you were here. The country's changed a lot in 20 years.)
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To: LouAvul

“You gentlemen can’t fight in here; this is the War Room!”


25 posted on 05/26/2007 8:50:53 AM PDT by Paul Heinzman (Mr. Reagan I wish you were here. The country's changed a lot in 20 years.)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

Very interesting; thanks for the info.


26 posted on 05/26/2007 5:33:49 PM PDT by 353FMG (Liberalism is a satanic cult.)
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To: Dumpster Baby
I've read enough stuff about Sterling Hayden over the years to come to think that the General Ripper character was not too far off from the real Hayden. I don't think it's any accident that he was picked for the role, or that he was able to play a dead-eyed loonie so perfectly.

Didn't he testify against commies, and then regret it, characterizing as a (failure of nerve?)?

27 posted on 05/26/2007 7:44:10 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: decal
“You’re gonna hafta answer to the Coca-Cola Company.”

Speaking of the Coca-Cola company, that reminds me of another great Cold-War era comedy, "One, Two, Three."

28 posted on 05/26/2007 7:48:51 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: LouAvul

My fav.

Watched it for the first time with my husband and his co-workers many years ago.


29 posted on 05/26/2007 7:49:59 PM PDT by television is just wrong (Amnesty is when you allow them to return to their country of origin without prosecution.)
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To: secretagent

I don’t remember that, exactly, but it would have been a typical Hayden moment. During WW2 he was an OSS agent and went behind enemy lines in Europe to help organize resistance groups, snatch people, etc. His most eccentric act I think was outfitting his sailboat with .50 cal machine guns and going U-boat hunting. He acted out the real swashbuckler during the war and nearly got himself killed doing it. He’s real lucky he never ran into a U-boat - they would have shot his sailboat to matchsticks.


30 posted on 05/26/2007 7:52:04 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: LouAvul

BTW: Jack D. Ripper was RIGHT about the flouridation of water. ;-)


31 posted on 05/26/2007 7:53:41 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Dumpster Baby
Hayden was a genuine adventurer and man of action, not dissimilar from many of his movie parts. He ran away to sea at 17, as a ship's boy, then later was a fisherman on the Grand Banks of Newfoundland. After serving as sailor and fireman on larger vessels, he was awarded his first command at 19, and sailed around the world several times.

Hayden became a print model and later signed a contract with Paramount Studios, who dubbed the 6' 5" (1.96 m) actor The Most Beautiful Man in the Movies and The Beautiful Blond Viking God. His first film starred Madeleine Carroll, with whom he fell in love and married. But after just two film roles, he left Hollywood to serve as an undercover agent with William J. Donovan's COI office. He remained there after it became the OSS. Hayden also joined the Marines under the name John Hamilton (which was never his legal name). His World War II service included running guns through German lines to the Yugoslav partisans and parachuting into fascist Croatia. He won the Silver Star and a commendation from Yugoslavia's Marshal Tito.

His admiration for the Communist partisans led to a brief membership in the Communist Party. According to his IMDB biography, as the Red Scare deepened in U.S., "he cooperated with the House Un-American Activities Committee, confessing his brief Communist ties" and 'naming names'. His wife at that time, Betty De Noon, insisted that the 'names' her ex-husband provided were already in the hands of the Committee, which had a copy of the Communist Party's membership list. In any event, Hayden subsequently repudiated his own cooperation with the Committee, stating in his autobiography "I don't think you have the foggiest notion of the contempt I have had for myself since the day I did that thing."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterling_Hayden

Jack D. Ripper as "penance"?

32 posted on 05/26/2007 9:28:37 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: MindBender26

Meanwhile, Peter Sellers’ reportedly modelled his accent on the photographer Weegee, my FRnamesake.

Weegee was on the set of DR. Strangelove (and you can find his name in the credits). Kubrick had begun as a newspaper photographer and was a fan.


33 posted on 05/28/2007 9:14:32 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: Paul Heinzman

The film was to originally end with a pie fight (and you can see the deserts laid out on carts in various scenes) but the actors got to laughing and it was supposed to be carried out with grim seriousness to ridicule the idea of war.

There wasn’t the budget to shoot it again and Kubrick reconsidered. Stray photos from the shoot have been printed but I don’t know if the footage even exists today.


34 posted on 05/28/2007 9:17:22 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: LouAvul

Probably the best satire movie ever made next to a Mel Brooks film. Wickedly funny.


35 posted on 05/28/2007 9:35:48 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The only illegal immigration bill should be the one from Greyhound Bus Lines for services rendered.)
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To: weegee
That's fascinating. The closing sequences of Gravity's Rainbow, with Gottfried being launched inside the imipolex shroud of Rocket 00000 echoes Slim Pickens's fatal joyride, a-and now I find out about...pie fights!

I think I just realized what movie they were waiting to see when chanting "C-mon! Start the show" in that novel's final, cryptic scene.

36 posted on 05/28/2007 9:37:37 AM PDT by Paul Heinzman (Mr. Reagan I wish you were here. The country's changed a lot in 20 years.)
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To: LouAvul

Hi, Lou:

Did anyone else notice that in several scenes when Col. Kong’s B-52 was flying low level over snowy Russian contryside, the B-52 cast the shadow of a B-17 across the snow?

Jack.


37 posted on 05/28/2007 12:02:06 PM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Resident FReeper Kitty Poem /Haiku Guy)
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To: MindBender26; Sleeping Beauty
Hi, MindBender, Sleeping Beauty:


In the companion movie, “Failsafe,” Walter Mathau played a companion part to Seller’s, a Professor Groeteschele, who was clearly patterned after the author’s friend, the then unknown (outside academic circles) Professor Henry Kissenger.

Mattau's Grotechele always reminded me more of Prof. Edmond Teller than Kissenger.


Jack.
38 posted on 05/28/2007 12:07:49 PM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Resident FReeper Kitty Poem /Haiku Guy)
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To: Jack Deth

Wow. The more I read this thread, the more I realize how rich this movie is. Gravity’s Rainbow, Teller, and Kissinger. Too much.


39 posted on 05/28/2007 12:17:38 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: Sleeping Beauty

Hi, SleepingBeauty:

Kubrick had first started out to do a straight, dramatic End Of The World film, ala “Fail Safe”. The farther along the production of “Strangelove” went, the more irony and comedy began to seep in. Until Kubrick decided to pull out all the stops and create the first Nuclear black comedy.

Peter Sellers was slated to play four characters, originally. Squadron Leader Mandrake, President Muffley, Dr. Strangelove and Col. “King” Kong.

Slim Picken was between films and was approached by Kubrick to play the Stetson whooping Nuke riding SAC pilot.

Jack.


40 posted on 05/28/2007 12:37:08 PM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Resident FReeper Kitty Poem /Haiku Guy)
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