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MORFORD: The end of the SUV
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 7/30/8 | Mark Morford

Posted on 07/30/2008 7:46:30 AM PDT by SmithL

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To: SmithL

one could only hope they go away. maybe then they’ll go back to making functional SUVs. yeah, i need the bigger engine, lower gearing and heavy duty tow package.. but why does that mean i need a/c, power everything, 8 speakers, leather, heated seats, chrome wheels, sunroof, heated mirrors, nav systems, keyless entry and $20,000 worth of other crap?
its all nice, but i just need something that’ll hold the family and tow my trailers.
and don’t even get me started on how they butchered the jeep line.


21 posted on 07/30/2008 8:18:24 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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To: TexasCajun
Liberals are costing Americans economic hardships in their homes and businesses in an attempt to engineer social change.

That is the exact reason I give when someone asks "why don't democrats allow drilling offshore and in ANWAR?"
22 posted on 07/30/2008 8:18:30 AM PDT by steel_resolve (We are living in the post-rational world where being a moron is an asset)
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To: SmithL
Even with President Obama's imminent new environmental policies, thoughtful, permanent change is gonna take awhile.

President Obama? Thats awfully presumptuous even for The Morfordite®.
23 posted on 07/30/2008 8:21:36 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: Blueflag
I had to shake my head at a coworker who bought a newer Hemi a few years back. He had a long commute but had to have the Jeep, I guess. So gas costs hurt (duh). His “solution” was to buy a second car that was cheaper on gas. SO with saving money being the key factor, he spends over $3000 on a used car (that immediately needed expensive brake work) that wasn't that great on gas. “Three grand can pay for alot of gas.” “Why not invest it or reduce your loan on the 1st car? (saving on interest)”
24 posted on 07/30/2008 8:22:04 AM PDT by endthematrix (Congress, Get Off Your Gas, And Drill!)
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To: SmithL

for later


25 posted on 07/30/2008 8:23:54 AM PDT by Mr. Pumblechook
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To: SmithL

And for all their bitching, it was the liberals and CAFE that made the SUV what it is today, by killing the full-sized stationwagon. Had they not done that, the minivan era never would have happened, and consequently neither would the large SUV phenomenon.


26 posted on 07/30/2008 8:25:30 AM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: mgc1122

The SUV was a fad brought on by baby boomers & yuppies who didn’t want a mini-van or station wagon because that would make them look like dull suburban people. With Cheap gas, home-equity lines of credit, leasing and a used market SUVs became the Fad of the 1990’s.

The SUV will go back to being a niche product like the convertible, purchased by people who will actually take the thing off-road (and the prices and add-ons will go down in price).

Personally, SUV’s never made any sense. You had less passenger and storage space than a mini-van, more difficult to get into and it handled like a boat.


27 posted on 07/30/2008 8:25:54 AM PDT by Philly Nomad
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To: dawn53

I was recently accosted by SUV critic who sneered about how expensive gas was and did I still like my SUV. I said I bought it for my daughter because it is a safe vehicle so gas price can’t change that. He looked dumb founded.


28 posted on 07/30/2008 8:26:50 AM PDT by y6162
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To: Sopater
How many people can an H1 Hummer seat? I’m hoping that they’ll be very reasonably priced here pretty soon.

I want an H3 when I pay off my truck, but I still have to convince hubby, he wants me to get another GMC truck on our "five year rotation plan"...he gets the hand-me-down truck and we sell his old truck to recoup the down payment for the new one, that is how it works for us. He said "What if you need to haul something?" I told him, "Well, I could use YOUR truck and I would LET YOU drive MY Hummer for a day". Somehow, he wasn't amused.

29 posted on 07/30/2008 8:29:39 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: SmithL
So maybe what's really changing is the central mind-set, shifting from our usual "more is more" ethos, the near-religious belief that Americans can use as much as we want and take up as much space as we like and not really give a damn, to something resembling thoughtfulness and refinement. Wouldn't that be nice? That the downfall of the SUV is largely due to a slow but sure awakening and re-education of the American animal?

Not a chance.

The liberals can't stand America and American exceptionalism.

"Let's not the rest of the world catch up with us; let's make Americans suffer while calling them selfish and immature and unrefined."

30 posted on 07/30/2008 8:30:14 AM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: SmithL

Those folks in San Fran haven’t stopped hallucinating since the 1960’s.


31 posted on 07/30/2008 8:32:41 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Boycott Washington D.C. until they allow gun ownership)
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To: y6162

Yup, my standard response is that they can drive a clown car if they want, but my family’s safety is worth alot more than a few bucks worth of gas. That usually shuts them up.


32 posted on 07/30/2008 8:32:42 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: VeniVidiVici
Bought this on Sunday. Come to papa .......

Now you've done it, here come the Ford bashers....
33 posted on 07/30/2008 8:36:56 AM PDT by 38special (I mean come on.)
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To: TexasCajun
I just paid off my Chevy 2500 4x4 diesel, I'll live with the high fuel cost instead of another truck payment, thank you very much.

Mo'ford is too busy gloating to realize that these vehicles are not disposable unibody, front-wheel-drive junk. They *last* with a moderate amount of maintenance.

I am delighted to own a Ford Explorer, the object of Mark's irrational hatred. Betcha I can keep it on the road longer than Morford can survive the health risks associated with his, er, "lifestyle".

34 posted on 07/30/2008 8:38:15 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: absolootezer0

I would agree with all but the A/C (but then, I live in TX where it’s a necessity).

I’d love to see a manual-transmission suburban again.


35 posted on 07/30/2008 8:38:36 AM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: SmithL

Yeah people thought big ol gas hogs were dead during the 70s gas crunch too. And they were for about 15 years, then the SUV hit the scene. Eventually gas will be cheap again or will be replaced by something cheap, and when you get right down to it Americans like their vehicles big and roomie with lots of doo-dads.


36 posted on 07/30/2008 8:41:01 AM PDT by boogerbear
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To: SmithL
Twenty years. That's about how long these great and ridiculous beasts stomped the Earth without peer or predator or even much coherent justification...

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When they have to make up facts for their arguments, its time to tell them to shut up until they know what they're talking about. The SUV has been around for many years before this writer's knowledge of history. The SUV has been a major mode of travel in rural America longer than I have been alive (almost 50 years).

This writer doesn't know what the heck he is talking about. The SUV in some fashion will always exist because there is a need.

37 posted on 07/30/2008 8:47:49 AM PDT by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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To: TexasCajun; steel_resolve
RE: Hardships and social change

Obama eluded to that when speaking to the House Dem Caucus yesterday:

“We are in a historic time” “extraordinary opportunity...the American people are hurting” “because of gas prices, jobs being lost, health care unaffordable and they can't figure out how to finance a college education”
“because the American people are having such a difficult time...anxious about the future, this is one of those moments where BIG CHANGE CAN HAPPEN.”

38 posted on 07/30/2008 8:48:24 AM PDT by endthematrix (Congress, Get Off Your Gas, And Drill!)
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To: Little Pig

its not as much of an issue with me- i’m in MI. i’ve used mine maybe half a dozen times in the last 2 years. besides, i spend most of the summer on a bike.
i’ll admit tho, its a nice convenience, especially when i have the kids with me. or if i need to be on the phone.


39 posted on 07/30/2008 8:49:07 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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To: SmithL

Morford is a perfect example of someone who has been buggered too hard and too often. What a smug a$$.

I just took delivery of my new Cadillac Escalade ESV two days ago. What a ride! 403HP, 6-speed trans, magnetic-shock suspension!

Go ahead...some of you gloat. Tell me about how much money I’ll spend on fuel. If you can’t afford it, don’t buy it. (The irony is that Cadillac almost paid me to buy it they cut such a screaming deal.)

The greatest pleasure I’m deriving from this ‘truck’ is looking at the smarmy, sanctimonious, and morally preening expressions on the faces of the Prius drivers as I blow past them in black and chrome.


40 posted on 07/30/2008 8:50:51 AM PDT by x1stcav (Anyone for a little armed rebellion?)
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