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MORFORD: The end of the SUV
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 7/30/8 | Mark Morford

Posted on 07/30/2008 7:46:30 AM PDT by SmithL

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To: 38special; VeniVidiVici
Now you've done it, here come the Ford bashers....

Ha, that is funny because I was re-e-e-eally tempted to. Personally, I have driven GMC trucks all my life and never had a single problem with them. My husband owned a Ford Taurus when I met him that threw oil so bad that you couldn't get out of it without getting it on your clothes. He is now a bonafide GMC lover.

41 posted on 07/30/2008 8:52:06 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: absolootezer0
I agree on the Jeep line. Why is a box with wheels been designed over 50yrs ago still big money? Look at Toyota Land Cruiser or the FJ. They should become cheaper, not luxury items
42 posted on 07/30/2008 8:54:54 AM PDT by endthematrix (Congress, Get Off Your Gas, And Drill!)
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To: SmithL

I thought we had already seen the end of Morford - what happened??


43 posted on 07/30/2008 9:00:00 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Philly Nomad
The SUV was a fad brought on by baby boomers & yuppies who didn’t want a mini-van or station wagon because that would make them look like dull suburban people. With Cheap gas, home-equity lines of credit, leasing and a used market SUVs became the Fad of the 1990’s.

The SUV will go back to being a niche product like the convertible, purchased by people who will actually take the thing off-road (and the prices and add-ons will go down in price).

Actully, the SUV was born of the CAFE regs that were intended to push the car manufacturers away from large, rear-wheel-drive sedans and station wagons. Light trucks were, at that time, exempt from the regulations. Instead of meekly complying with the federal government, the manufacturers chose to move the station wagon to the truck chassis.

Station wagons were always more popular than vans, even in the '60s and '70s. Back then, vans were mostly commercial vehicles. The custom "conversion" van phenomenon of the '70s was an attempt to make vans seem "cool", but it certainly wasn't aimed at families (quite the contrary, IIRC).

I think all of that leads up to the popularity of SUVs vs. minivans. There was more to it than mere "fad".

44 posted on 07/30/2008 9:01:32 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: SmithL

We just bought our first SUV last month. A 2008 Ford Escape Limited V6 with 200 HP rated at 18/24 MPG (it actually gets closer to 20/28). We couldn’t be happier!


45 posted on 07/30/2008 9:05:53 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (When it comes to Obama, just keep the change.)
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To: SmithL

Yeah, and in 1985 one of my coworkers declared to me that the 30-year fixed mortgage was dead and would never be revived. That didn’t come about either.


46 posted on 07/30/2008 9:33:27 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: detective

The SUV is great for ditzy soccer moms (ROT IN HELL) who are always getting doped up on xanax and causing accidents on 206, ruining Clemenza’s commute home.


47 posted on 07/30/2008 9:35:15 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: Ghengis

When I was a kid, you didn’t (expletive) with guys who drove a blazer, as they WOULD be able to kick your ass.


48 posted on 07/30/2008 9:37:14 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: sauropod
Plus, five bucks a gallon is still a pittance for a large and wealthy hunk of the SUV-loving populace...

Remember that for democrats all of us common people (not them)who make a comfortable but not rich living are indeed "the rich" whom they are going to tax the daylights out of. My kids are certainly not "rich" either and for them, with children, an SUV is the logical vehicle to have.

49 posted on 07/30/2008 9:38:30 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: SmithL

Bozo there can write what he wants, but let him show me a car that can get 21-22 mpg on the highway WHILE TOWING ANOTHER CAR like my Xterra SUV can do. Let him come up with something that can tow more than maybe 1000lb of trailer. There isn’t much out there that can do that. Certainly most of the new “crossovers” can’t do that. most of them are rated to tow....nothing.


50 posted on 07/30/2008 9:42:15 AM PDT by Mr Inviso
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To: HoosierHawk
"Let's not the rest of the world catch up with us; let's make Americans suffer while calling them selfish and immature and unrefined."

I prefer to think of this in terms of highest/lowest common denominator.

Conservatism/capitalism allows people to achieve higher standards. When a small number of individuals excell, they motivate others to strive for personal improvement. In the long term, everyone benefits.

Liberalism consistently values the LOWEST common denominator - bring the successful down to the level of the lazy/failure types by sheer iron rule. This is, of course, societally self-destructive in the long term.

51 posted on 07/30/2008 9:50:17 AM PDT by WireAndWood (A thing with booty is a joy to be holdin')
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To: VeniVidiVici

06 f-250 diesel fx4 supercab w/spray-in bedliner and 4-pin hitch ... for my 29’ fifth-wheel - and my 5’4” wife.
bonus - just over 10 mpg while towing! with a/c!


52 posted on 07/30/2008 10:33:15 AM PDT by wayne_b24 (every day in the Light is a good day ... John 8:12 & 14:6; Psalm 119:105; Joshua 24:15)
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To: SmithL

Please, someone post a “End of the Dumbasses” Alert and tell us these people are no longer allowed to WRITE without being fined for being stupid....


53 posted on 07/30/2008 10:33:15 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: woofer2425
There is a place for small fuel efficient cars and a place for SUVs and pickups.

Spot on! I know there are people that fervently hate SUVs and others that love them as an embodiment of the American lifestyle. I simply couldn't care less. Everyone should be able to set his priorities, be it cars, housing or travel.

Personally I find SUVs as a fashion statement rather pointless. If I wanted to drive a fun car, I'd buy anything BUT an SUV. (A Lotus Elise or Ariel Atom, now that's a fun car.) The rigid frame actually makes them less safe than a mid- / full-size station wagon. And of course, with high gas prices, the SUV as a fashion statement will die out like the 50s/60s tailfins. That doesn't mean that the SUV, or rather the real off-roader, will die out. It's just that in urban areas station wagons and minivans will make a return.

And that's neither good nor bad but just the way it is.
54 posted on 07/30/2008 11:07:41 AM PDT by wolf78
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To: ravingnutter; 38special

LOL! I wouldn’t have taken the bashing personally. I just hope this truck is as reliable as my previous vehicles.

I’ve owned a mix of cars over the years but it just occurred to me that my last Ford vehicle was also a diesel: a 1985 Ford Tempo diesel with a Mitsubishi motor. Man did I love that car.


55 posted on 07/30/2008 11:24:12 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Barack Hussein Obama=Jimmy Carter Part Douche)
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To: WireAndWood
And you're exactly right.

"Drag 'em all down!"

56 posted on 07/30/2008 12:09:55 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: Ghengis

Yup. The Chevrolet Suburban was introduced in 1935... Love to get my hands on a 1947-1955 First series version. I’d settle for a ‘55 second series to a ‘57.


57 posted on 07/30/2008 12:15:34 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: SmithL
Yes, the imploding petroleum economy has spoken, and this is what it said: The era of the big, happy, dumb SUV is over.

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"Did Morford just say 'imploding petroleum'? I think I just got moist."

58 posted on 07/30/2008 7:04:02 PM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: SmithL
The era of the big, happy, dumb SUV is over.

Where I live the "Morfords" of the mainstream news media start screeching for 4WD SUV owners to volunteer their vehicles, gas, and time to rescue the idiots and non-drivers from themselves at the sign of the first winter snowflake. The last five years I've plowed my driveway and my neighbor's and parked it for the duration.

59 posted on 07/30/2008 7:13:22 PM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: wayne_b24; 38special
06 f-250 diesel fx4 supercab w/spray-in bedliner and 4-pin hitch ... for my 29’ fifth-wheel - and my 5’4” wife. bonus - just over 10 mpg while towing! with a/c!

I'm hoping I get at least 10mpg while carrying/towing.

Funniest part of the whole transation was we traded in a Honda Accord Hybrid. They didn't know if we were serious or not :)

Hey, just doing our part for the economy.

60 posted on 07/30/2008 8:45:18 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Barack Hussein Obama=Jimmy Carter Part Douche)
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