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To: El Gato; John Valentine

The first articles published by “The Honolulu Advertiser” mentioned that the Dunhams lived in two homes in Hawaii before moving into the apartment at 1617 S. Beretania St. Freeper John Valentine confirmed that the Dunhams lived at 2277 Kamehameha Ave. in 1960-61 and we also have Jr’s own words talking about when his father visited in 1971 when he mentions they took “walking tours past the private landmarks of a family and included walking past my grandparents’ first house in Hawaii, before the one on University Ave., a house I had never known.” (pg 39)
When Obama Sr visited in 1971 he was recovering from a car accident in which he had injured his leg which meant he was using a cane. The house at 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy was more than 7 miles from the apartment at S. Beretania St and neither Jr nor Sr could have walked a 14 mile round trip to view such a home.
Also you will note that “The Honolulu Advertiser” mentions an apartment at 1427 Alexander St which the Dunhams supposedly lived in in 1963. Why would the Dunhams live in an apartment in essence allowing Ann and Jr to take over the home at 2277 Kamehameha Ave before moving into the home again themselves? The paper never did a proper investigation and ran with the story of the addresses. If you will also notice when they contacted Nani Smethurst they TOLD her the home had been the first home Jr lived in after he was born and she said, “I didn’t know.”
I believe the apt at 1427 Alexander St was one which the Dunhams rented in their name for Ann and Jr upon their return from WA state in early 1963. Ann only lived in the apartment for a short time before moving back in with her parents at the house at 2277 Kamehameha Ave once she registered for spring classes at UH at Manoa.
The article which you linked is full of supposition, speculation and inneundo and is definitely an example of what journalism has come to, but it did allow me to figure out when Ann and Jr had returned to HI from WA state. We already knew that high school friend, Barbara Cannon Rusk, visited Ann at the apartment on Capitol Hill after the World’s Fair ended. The World’s Fair ended October 21, 1962 so Ann returned to Hawaii sometime after that. The mention of apt 110 1427 Alexander St. allowed me to figure out that Ann phoned her parents and asked them to rent her an apartment for her and Jr to live in upon her return to HI. When Ann registered for spring 1963 classes at UH at Manoa she used the address 2277 Kamehameha Ave. which is the house the Dunhams had lived in since they moved to Hawaii in 1960.


56 posted on 01/28/2009 10:59:01 AM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: Chief Engineer

I’d like to add that the notion that anyone who lived in a home on Kamehameha Avenue in 1961 would willingly give that up in favor of an apartment on Alexander Street for any reason short of total financial collapse, i.e. bankruptcy, is laughable to the point of hysterics.

Who on earth would even try to peddle such a ludicrous tale? It’s pretty clear to me that Chief Engineer has the scenario pretty well assessed.


57 posted on 01/28/2009 11:26:03 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: Chief Engineer
2277 Kamehameha Ave. which is the house the Dunhams had lived in since they moved to Hawaii in 1960.

So the adoring crowds are making pilgrimages to a house, the one in the birth announcement, and probably on his long form BC (whichever version), that The One never lived in.

Figures.

His very birth announcement was a fraud.

61 posted on 01/28/2009 4:00:55 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Chief Engineer

Is this visit to Seattle and Ann’s friend the second visit she took with Obama when he was a baby? I’ve also seen it said that she was there when he was a tiny newborn, so he may have been born in Washington state. So are there two separate visits?


73 posted on 01/30/2009 3:03:49 PM PST by Crystal Cove
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