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If you simply wanted to argue, then there was no use replying.

If the SHTF, the least productive people will be those who insist on going on and on about who’s to blame and why ain’t the electric on and what do we do to get gas and do you think we can get to McDonalds...

Whiners are expendable.

"If you simply wanted to argue, then there was no use replying."

I see. I only wanted to argue.

"If the SHTF, the least productive people will be those who insist on going on and on about who’s to blame and why ain’t the electric on and what do we do to get gas and do you think we can get to McDonalds..."

"Whiners are expendable."

...especially the men who've sworn to protect/defend our Nation, various states and cities, and only done the dirtiest and most dangerous of such work, for example. Go ahead. I'm accustomed to it, having been subjected to it by my superiors here (bosses, office chicks, government clerks, domineering, mouthy, drug-addicted neighbors, thieves,...) and in a few third-world countries.

It's something to joke about at work with the other men--most of them from Mexico, Jamaica and quite a few other places to our south. ...and some of them, recent commandos. They're pretty good, for young men, at swinging pickaxes into the rocks after the runoff.

If you read a lot of Survivalist fiction (and I do), you’ll note several themes. Eventually, the people willing to work to survive have to band together. None of the fiction writers deal with the idea that a determined force of no-goods will eventually overwhelm a small pod of Have’s. That guy you got to dig a latrine in exchange for food is eventually going to run into a determined armed scavenging force and you are going to get a visit. You probably will not win. The only thing that can stop them is a very large group of well-armed people or the threat of such.

I’ve noticed that survivalist fiction is beginning to center around large cooperative groups after TSHTF. It seems to be the only method unless you are Grizzly Adams and can live in a cabin in the woods until the stuff blows over.

So a few realities:

1. If it gets really bad, you will have to move.
2. You need to know where to go
3. You will need to know how to get there as stealthly as possible.
4. If it ever gets bad, skills will be worth more than food.
5. No matter how well prepped you are, it all goes out the window if you have to go mobile. It comes down to how much you can carry on your back.

The good news is that you will not need all that prepping but you will need some of it. The best prep you can do is have a plan to join a community if needed, especially if you live in an urban environment.

If you are older, volunteer to help a Boy Scout troop. You’ll know why when you do.