Coast-2-coast AM - 02.10.09 - John Hogue -Prophecy & Nostradamus- hogueprophecy

Prophecy scholar John Hogue will discuss predictions for 2009, the future of the economy, a possible new cold war with Russia, and the three Antichrists seen by Nostradamus.

Thanks Perdogg. Ordinarily I have less use for the so-called skeptics than I do their victims (at least the victims often provide entertainment), but this page has this:

"1000 for 2000: Startling predictions for the new millennium from prophets ancient and modern." ... The Failed Prophet of Presidential Elections -- In the book, Hogue proudly states that since 1968 (when he was 13), he has been 100% correct about his US presidential premonitions...

"726: President Clinton will complete his final term, despite all attempts to unseat him. (1993)"

True. Safe bet. Only one president out of 43 (Nixon) has ever been unseated. And when not even Warren G. Harding was unseated, it would seem likely that Clinton, whose most devastating fault seems to be an uncontrollable libido, would stay in office. As it turned out, he did.

"727: By 2050, historians and public alike will view President Clinton as one of the three most important presidents of the 20th century (the other two being Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Richard Nixon). People in the mid-twenty-first century will view Clinton's sexual scandals with less cultural intolerance. They will focus more on his initiatives in foreign and economic policy that paved the way for a new era in international unity in the coming fifty years. (1992)"

Undetermined until 2050.

"728: Arizona Republican Senator John McCain has the best chance to defeat Democrat Al Gore in 2000. However, the Republican party will suffer defeat once again, because it may choose another George Bush and a Dole as its candidates - to be exact, George W. Bush and a woman vice-presidential candidate like Elizabeth Dole or Senator Kaye Baily Hutchinson of Texas. (1998)"

False. John McCain eventually supported republican George W. Bush, when he couldn't muster enough support for his own candidacy. The Republicans won the election. Bush chose Dick Cheney as his VP.

"729: The Republican party will be a casualty of millenial fever. The right-wing fundamentalists in that party will split it apart over religious extremist views. (1994)"

Unfalsifiable. What does "millenial fever" mean? When does this fever stop? In 2010? In a hundred - maybe a thousand years? Never? How many fundamentalists will have to leave, in order to call it a "split"?

"730: The next president will die in office, most likely in his first term. (1994)"

False, if "next" means the re-elected Clinton, who left office in excellent health.
Undetermined until 2004/2008, if it means Bush.

Let's give Hogue the benefit of the doubt and say this one is Undetermined.

"731: The next president will not be assassinated. He will succumb to health problems, perhaps heart trouble, or he will die in some air accident. (1994)"

Undetermined until 2004/2008. However, Dick Cheney has had several heart surgeries, but he is "only" Vice President. Bush will have to die before Cheney becomes President.

"732: It pains me to say it, but I believe that the president will be Al Gore. Although he may suffer an untimely death while in office, I can say that he will be remembered as a visionary leader, compared by some to President Kennedy. Like Kennedy, he will launch a national race - not the Space Race, but a race to make America ecologically responsible before it is too late. (1992)"

False. Gore was Clinton's running mate in 1994 and lost in 2000. Predicting that Gore would have launched an ecological race is obvious to anyone who knows he published "Earth in the Balance" - in 1992!

"733: President Gore will have a woman as his vice president. (1992)"

False. Gore chose Joe Lieberman as his running mate, and as far as the record shows, Lieberman is male.

"734: A woman will be president much sooner than anyone expects. She will not be elected, but will become president upon the death of the president elected in 2000. (1994)"

False. That would require George W. Bush to have a female Vice President, and as far as the record shows, Dick Cheney is male.

"735: Hillary Clinton will be a president of the United States before 2010. (1998)"

Undetermined. However, Hillary Clinton has publically stated that she will not seek the Oval Office.

It seems like John Hogue will have to change his boasts. Out of the five that could be determined now, four were wrong. Four are undetermined. One is unfalsifiable. Not 100% accuracy anymore.

I may have missed my calling — I could easily do what Hogue does, and do it better. From almost three years ago:

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/aspie/trueorfalse/johnhogue.html

Monday 1st May 2006

John Hogue

Here are the latest predictions from John Hogue. He was talking with George Noory.

There weren’t too many predictions in this show as a lot of them have already been mentioned in previous shows. The one main prediction that he did give was that the US would go to war with Iran in June 2006. [Well?]

4th June to 22nd July 2006 Nostradamus predicts a long comet will be seen in the skies when Mars and Saturn will be in Leo. Hogue thinks this is not a real comet but believes Nostradamus was describing a missile attack, possibly nuclear. Mars and Saturn will be in Leo again between 7th December and 16th/17th January 2007. He thinks this attack will involve Iran. [Well?]

The whole world has a 10 year window in which it can dramatically change its course.

In one quatrain Nostradamus writes that a great city of the maritime ocean surrounded by a swamp of crystal in the winter solstice and the spring will be tried by a terrible wind. Hogue says the swamp of crystal signifies the way Nostradamus would view skyscrapers. So he is predicting a major typhoon in a city in the Southern Hemisphere such as Shanghai or in Australia. [’Civ notes that Shanghai isn’t in the southern hemisphere, of course, that’s off the top of my head; Australia is however]

The present Pope is the last Pope on St Malachi’s list. The next Pope will not be called Peter II as an unwritten law states that there can only be one Pope called Peter and that was the first one. [”an unwritten law states that” ... I may hit my head when I fall off my chair laughing at that one]

Also on this show John Hogue admitted that he has changed his view on a lot of Nostradamus predictions over the years. He says the skeptics use all his changes to try and discredit his work.

This week I also watched a show on one of the Discovery channels debunking Nostradamus. One of the skeptics came up with a good analogy as to how people like John Hogue work. He compared Hogue’s work to a game of roulette, a game called Nostradamus Roulette, except with this game the rules are slightly different.

With normal roulette you pick a number, the guy chose 23. You spin the wheel. If 23 comes up you win, if it doesn’t you lose.

Nostradamus Roulette is slightly different. You pick a number, say 23 again. You spin the wheel. If 23 doesn’t come up you spin again, and again and again, and keep spinning until it lands on 23. Then you proclaim Nostradamus got it correct and tell everyone how great he was.

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