Ancient Trading Raft Sails Anew [ Thor Heyerdahl did it first ]

ScienceDaily ^ | May 13, 2009 | Massachusetts Institute of Technology

[annalex]

Yes. The Russians rivers formed the “way from the Varangians to the Greeks”

[annalex]

In Christian tradition though, the word came to mean those properly canonized by the Church.

[SharpRightTurn]

You’re right, New Testament use of “saints” is in reference to all Christians.

Some have tried to change the meaning since then. I prefer to use the term in the sense the Bible does.

[Uri’el-2012]

In Christian tradition though, the word came to mean those properly canonized by the Church.

I very sorry to hear that your tradition rejects the Holy Word of Elohim.

I'll put you in my prayers that you seek YHvH
and His salvation (Yah'shua) through His Holy Word.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[annalex]

Matter of fact, it is the trade route to the Orient that was along rivers.

Map showing the major Varangian trade routes: the Volga trade route (in red) and the Trade Route from the Varangians to the Greeks (in purple). Other trade routes of the eighth-eleventh centuries shown in orange.

Wiki

See, we found a way out of the segue back to ancient travel.

[Paladin2]

Given the proclivities of the Viking “parties”, it’s likely that some semblance their spawn are still present in the area of “passage”.

[Uri’el-2012]

I'm an objectivist, by training

I'm sorry to hear that you are an atheist.

Now I know why you believe that you are
the most important person in the world.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[annalex]

Both meanings are compatible, as St. Paul never used the word in reference to those of whose salvation he was not sure.

The scriptural usage only conflicts with the presumptious doctrine that confuses salvation with a decision for Christ made at some point in a lifetime. But then the entire edifice of Protestantism is an counterscriptural illusion.

[Paladin2]

In šāʾ Allāh

Whatever.

Thor Heyerdahl still build a Balsa raft in the current understanding of past generations to successfully sail on the open ocean over great distances.

It was a feat of great daring and faith.

[Paladin2]

She’s kinda cute for being a compleat geek. :-)

[Uri’el-2012]

Both meanings are compatible, as St. Paul never used the word in reference to those of whose salvation he was not sure.

The scriptural usage only conflicts with the presumptious(sic) doctrine that confuses salvation with a decision for Christ made at some point in a lifetime. But then the entire edifice of Protestantism is an counterscriptural illusion.

Paul stated:

NAsbU Romans 10:13 for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."(Joel 2:32)

NAsbU Joel 2:32 "And it will come about that whoever calls on the name of the LORD Will be delivered;
For on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem There will be those who escape,
As the LORD has said, Even among the survivors whom the LORD calls.

NAsbU 1 Corinthians 1:2 To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who have been
sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling, with all who in every place call on the
name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours:

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[annalex]

This is not a theology thread. If you are interested to debate that, see SALVATION PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE, which explains the scriptural soteriology.

For practical purposes, the normative usage of referring to canonized saints when speaking of Christian names holds, no matter what theological fantasies to the contrary you might have.

[Paladin2]

"fantasies to the contrary"

LOL.

[Uri’el-2012]

Mazol Tov

Have a wonderful journey on the wide way.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[annalex]

You too,

I pray you not to faint at my tribulations for you, which is your glory. 14 For this cause I bow my knees to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 Of whom all paternity in heaven and earth is named, 16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened by his Spirit with might unto the inward man, 17 That Christ may dwell by faith in your hearts; that being rooted and founded in charity, 18 You may be able to comprehend, with all the saints, what is the breadth, and length, and height, and depth: 19 To know also the charity of Christ, which surpasseth all knowledge, that you may be filled unto all the fulness of God. (Eph. 3)

[SunkenCiv]

Well, red hair... and it is spring at last...