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Hawaii tries again to snuff Barack Obama birth certificate controversy (L.A. Times)
Los Angeles Times ^ | July 28, 2009 | Andrew Malcolm

Posted on 07/28/2009 6:43:16 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american

Well, surely this will settle finally once and for all that Barack Hussein Obama was really, actually and factually born in the United States and, therefore, is fully qualified according to the U.S. Constitution to be the president that he has been since he took the oath of office on Jan. 20 and a second time shortly after, just to make sure.

Not! In yet another quite possibly futile attempt to silence the zombie birther controversy that won't die,

(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...


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EXCERPT: But then, what is it state health director Fukino claims she looked at? And why exactly were Obama's documents destroyed? What were they hiding?

How did the Obama kid and his late mother ever get his U.S. passport without an actual certified birth certificate like everyone else has to produce? So they could travel to and live in Indonesia all those years ago? What about the report that some African relative recalls Obama being born in Kenya?

1 posted on 07/28/2009 6:43:17 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: real_patriotic_american

Per Article 2, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, one must be a natural born American citizen to serve as President. Barack Obama is NOT eligible for the Presidency because he is not a natural born citizen. The law that applied during the time of Obama’s birth (in effect from December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986) stated- “If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.” Obama’s father was a Kenyan citizen (a British Colony) and his mother just 18 at Obama’s birth...” (thus, she would have had to have been 21 in order for Obama to be eligible). John A. Bingham, primary framer, 14th Amendment, states- “Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” Obama himself has stated that he is the son of a Kenyan- Kenya being a foreign sovereignty. Thus, Obama is not a natural born citizen even if he were actually born in Hawaii.


2 posted on 07/28/2009 6:45:12 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: real_patriotic_american

http://theobamafile.com/ObamaFamily.htm

this man’s life is a real mess


3 posted on 07/28/2009 6:45:43 AM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: real_patriotic_american

Excerpt from attorney Orly Taitz letter to Congress:

“There is plenty of evidence of Mr. Obama being born in Kenya and obtaining his Hawaiian birth certificate based on a statement of his grandparent only, who simply didn’t want to deal with immigration and not based on any records from any hospitals. Extensive searches in the State of Hawaii showed no birthing records for his mother [Stanley] Ann Dunham in any hospital in Hawaii.”


4 posted on 07/28/2009 6:46:33 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: silverleaf
this man’s life is a real mess

And he's intent on imposing that state onto the entire country.

5 posted on 07/28/2009 6:47:51 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: silverleaf

Note that Obama won’t release documents:

Original birth certificate - Not released
Obama/Dunham marriage license - Not released
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license - Not released
Soetoro adoption records - Not released
Besuki School application - Released
Punahou School records - Not released
Selective Service Registration - Released and under suspicion
Occidental College records - Not released
Passport (Pakistan) - Not released
Columbia College records - Not released
Columbia thesis - Not released
Harvard College records - Not released
Harvard Law Review articles - None (maybe 1, unsigned?)
Baptism certificate - None
Medical records - Not released
Illinois State Senate records - None
Illinois State Senate schedule - Lost
Law practice client list - Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles - None


6 posted on 07/28/2009 6:48:14 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: real_patriotic_american
Obama's birth certificate

Obama's sister was born in Indonesia and also has a COLB from Hawaii.

Did you know? Obama’s half sister, born in Indonesia, has a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth (COLB) just like Obama's?

Maya Soetoro was born to Indonesian businessman Lolo Soetoro and American cultural anthropologist Ann Dunham and is half-sister to the 44th President of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama. While living in Indonesia, she was home schooled by her mother and then attended Jakarta International School, later returningto Hawaii where she attended the private Punahou School in Honolulu, Hawaii, graduating in 1988.

Besides being the First Sister Maya has a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth - despite be born in Jakarta Indonesia. Supposedly this certificate was used by the Daily Kos to forge an Obama version. Does anyone find it odd that Maya; undisputedly born in Indonesia, would have the same type of document as Barack Obama to forge?

http://www.examiner.com/x-14143-Orange-County-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m7d27-Did-you-know-Obamas-half-sister-born-in-Indonesia-has-a-Hawaiian-Certification-of-Live-Birth


7 posted on 07/28/2009 6:48:56 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: real_patriotic_american; pissant

Zombie birther controversy? Well, another slur to add to kook, tinfoiler, nut, (and the Coulter version) crank.

Its not going away, LA Times...because there is SOMETHING there being hidden. By too many people who can’t all keep their stories straight...(they ‘saw’ it last year; they destroyed all paper copies in 2001; what, we never destroy paper copies!). Somebody is lying. Who and why?


8 posted on 07/28/2009 6:50:08 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (7-27-09 Sarah Palin Independence Day!)
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To: Bon mots

There are those, Bon mots, who would just say that that qualitifies Maya for the Presidency as well. Kind of a Kennedy/Clinton/Biden/nepotism thing happening.


9 posted on 07/28/2009 6:52:22 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (7-27-09 Sarah Palin Independence Day!)
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To: real_patriotic_american
In yet another quite possibly futile attempt to silence the zombie birther controversy that won't die,...

Hey, dumbass LAT supposed reporter, ask your buddy Bozo to allow people to see his BC and the issue will be deader than a door nail!

Why are you not the least bit interested in WHY Barak is keeping his own BC hidden although supposedly there is a copy online for everyone to see!?

10 posted on 07/28/2009 6:52:51 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Gravity Of The Situation...)
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To: silverleaf
just had a quick scan through that and the birth, the hospitals and such are every interesting

Makes me laugh that the left try to say well an article was in the paper and that says he was born there.

Well I am here and I have put articles in the UK papers for my family over there.
Not very hard at all to do.

but this is the left we are dealing with,. Look how much they go after Dobbs now because he brought the subject up. The left will not stand by. They are fighting this and using Dobbs as a message tom anyone else. Do not go there.

I found it interesting that the reporter went to both hospitals and both times officers were there to tell reporters to do one.

11 posted on 07/28/2009 6:52:54 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman , nothing else-- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
I'm not so sure it's the place of birth that's at issue. Plainly there is something on that long form that BO does not want made public, otherwise why this prolonged fight?

A reasonable person would have released it long ago and put this issue to rest.

12 posted on 07/28/2009 6:53:53 AM PDT by truthkeeper ("Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?")
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

regardless of the media trying to denounce anyone who brings this up and despite them saying that they have checked mroe and mroe folks are asking questions.

I never bothered about this but now I have more and mroe questions as does many people I know

This is not going away.
We need a reporter to go to Kenya and ask his own family plus show on camera the place where Kenyans say he was born


13 posted on 07/28/2009 6:55:41 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman , nothing else-- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: real_patriotic_american

Hawaii Howard meets Baghdad Bob.

This is the marching order Obama has sent out, deny facts, just make an announcement that this is the truth and we do not have to prove it.

To all those participating in this, your names are on record as collaborators, you may have possibly ended your career by allowing a higher office to dictate your actions.

Granted its difficult to find the real truth, we have new posters here every day that ask that and if it wasn’t for freepers willing to be patient and spread the facts out it would be difficult indeed to believe anything from “birthers”.

Obama failed to qualify and is misusing the office of POTUS to maintain his charade at any expense, he cares not the result as long as its disruptive to America, create racial divides and destroys capitalism.

This is socialism at work.


14 posted on 07/28/2009 6:57:39 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: real_patriotic_american
Thus, Obama is not a natural born citizen even if he were actually born in Hawaii.

The WH and Legal Team Obama has seized upon the some of the hysteria floating around to complete avoid dealing with the "Natural Born" issue.

The fact remains that BHO, Jr. is probably a citizen and probably not a "Natural Born Citizen." The question remains, too. Just what the hell is anyone supposed to do about it, when the issue appears ineligible for litigation? Anyone even remotely resembling a plaintiff is neatly mooted or found to have no standing to bring suit.

Face it. There is a hole in our Constitution in regard to this issue that is big enough to drive a Kenyan elephant through. As a matter of fact, someone just did. Standing by for the results of the next round in the "Obama vs. American Public" series.

15 posted on 07/28/2009 6:58:44 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Congratulations Obama Voters! You are not prejudiced. Just unpatriotic. And dumb.)
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To: Eye of Unk

Great tagline you have.


16 posted on 07/28/2009 6:58:50 AM PDT by truthkeeper ("Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?")
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To: real_patriotic_american

I think a made for TV movie is appropriate entitled ‘The Kenyan Imposter”. Wonder if Oliver Stone would be interested?


17 posted on 07/28/2009 7:01:00 AM PDT by y6162 (uish..)
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To: manc
They won't show it because BHO has something to hide.

It's that simple.

All this does is tell me BHO is hiding something he can't change ......... something that will ROCK his World!

Show US the original..............if it's good than why not show it? Demand it for Security Clearance

18 posted on 07/28/2009 7:01:02 AM PDT by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now.)
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To: truthkeeper

” Plainly there is something on that long form that BO does not want made public”

Such as there isn’t one?


19 posted on 07/28/2009 7:01:15 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Eye of Unk
Hawaii Howard meets Baghdad Bob....
This is socialism at work.

BTTT...b/c; the truth hurts Zer0Bambi & the Bolsheviks


20 posted on 07/28/2009 7:03:33 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Zer0 to the poor (foolish) voter: Welcome to MY DeathCARE ® You Sucker... Now Die! :^)
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