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Group urges CW stations not to air 'Gossip Girl'
AP via Yahoo ^ | 11/4/09 | Frazier Moore

Posted on 11/05/2009 12:07:25 AM PST by malkee

NEW YORK – On-air promos for a sexual threesome on an upcoming episode of "Gossip Girl" have spurred the Parents Television Council to ask affiliates of the CW network to pre-empt the show.

Airing the teen tryst, which is being teased in an ad as a "3SOME," is "reckless and irresponsible," said PTC president Tim Winter in a statement Wednesday. The threesome involves three main characters in the show but they are not identified in the promos.

The PTC has urged CW affiliate stations not to air the episode, scheduled for Nov. 9.

In a letter to the affiliates, Winter asked: "Will you now be complicit in establishing a precedent and expectation that teenagers should engage in behaviors heretofore associated primarily with adult films?"

This is not the first time the PTC has complained about the sexy prep-school soap, which Winter said is "expressly targeted to impressionable teenagers."

In July 2008, the organization spoke out against a racy marketing campaign for its new season. Ads showed intimate moments between the show's characters (on a couch, in the sack or apparently skinny-dipping), accompanied by headlines like "A Nasty Piece of Work" and "Mind-Blowingly Inappropriate."

"CW has been defending graphic content on 'Gossip Girl' by asserting that they don't target teenagers," Winters said Wednesday. "Such a claim doesn't even pass the 'laugh test.'"

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TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: gossipgirl; ptc; tv
I actually watched this show once.
1 posted on 11/05/2009 12:07:26 AM PST by malkee
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2 posted on 11/05/2009 12:13:56 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: malkee

“..is “reckless and irresponsible,” said PTC president Tim Winter”

- For a minute there, this looked like something else entirely.


3 posted on 11/05/2009 12:16:43 AM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: malkee

I mean this as respectfully as possible, but any parent that thinks getting the show pulled from the air will stop their kids access to it is naive or stupid.

Uh, let’s count the ways:

1. iTunes

2. Online content distribution sites such as Hulu.com and a few dozen others that can be accessed through any online Internet connection or cell phone hooked to high speed service

3. Amazon.com’s On-Demand video rental or purchase for about $1.99 a title. All it would take is a debit card and an email address.

Not only is this sort of streaming content virtually un-filterable (and besides - any decent 14 year old knows how to disable a filter; they just act like they don’t), the notion that someone can somehow control access to information in the digital age is just - again - naive. Kids are going to see it. Very few people actually watch television on television anymore.


4 posted on 11/05/2009 2:14:17 AM PST by WallStreetCapitalist
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To: malkee

Better yet, stop watching TV. People should shut down the sewer pipe into their homes in masses. That’s the only way to get the industry’s attention... Much like what’s happened to newspapers today.


5 posted on 11/05/2009 4:11:41 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: malkee

These people never learn. It was such an attempted boycott that put Married With Children and the Fox network on the map. The publicity saved the show and boosted the struggling new network.

CW execs probably cheered when they saw the press release. CW is this very moment likely spreading the news that OLD people don’t want their young audience to watch.


6 posted on 11/05/2009 4:50:41 AM PST by tlb
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To: WallStreetCapitalist
the notion that someone can somehow control access to information in the digital age is just - again - naive. Kids are going to see it.

Oh, yeah? Just watch us.

#0. TV is gone. Period. Our home doesn't have one.

#1-3. Children do not get access to a computer with an Internet connection. Their home school instruction will prepare them to do research on line when the time comes. That time is not yet. If we the parents decide that a youngster needs such access, a filtering hardware router in the wiring closet or ISP will be found. The material will be filtered before it even gets to the computer itself. Computer will be in a common area.

Children's friends will have parents whose values are in the same ball park as ours. They are out there. Most socializing will take place outdoors or at events. Not around computers.

Needless to say, kids won't have a debit card. Nor will they have cell phones.

This is not an easy thing to do, and good friends and homeschooling are essential parts of it, but it can be done. The stakes are too high.
7 posted on 11/05/2009 5:21:49 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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Children's friends will have parents whose values are in the same ball park as ours. They are out there.

In Amish communities?

8 posted on 11/05/2009 5:24:08 AM PST by Publius Valerius
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In Amish communities?

Close. For us, they are traditional Catholics in our church. However, people with similar concerns can be found among groups of Evangelicals, Bible-believing Protestants, Orthodox Jews and Mormons. Look how few Orthodox Jews there are in this country, and how they have found each other.

In the age of the automobile, close proximity is nice, but not always absolutely necessary. Since these families tend to be larger, you don't have to find that many.
9 posted on 11/05/2009 5:32:29 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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Is this the show where a bunch a rich girls act like cold-hearted b-words to each other?

I wonder why parental groups haven't protested against that aspect of the show? I guess it's okay for one's daughter to be a shallow, materialistic monster as long as she isn't intimately involved with any young men.

10 posted on 11/05/2009 7:44:21 AM PST by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: malkee

This show is doing horribly in the ratings. It was going away without any help from the PTC. Their protest will only help the show.

Maybe that is what they want. Hard to make a living being outraged if you don’t have something to be outraged about.


11 posted on 11/05/2009 8:03:19 AM PST by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: trumandogz
tv in trash can
12 posted on 11/05/2009 8:18:43 AM PST by heartwood
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To: malkee

CW is lame.


13 posted on 11/05/2009 10:51:40 AM PST by Ptarmigan (God Hates Bunnies. God Loves Ptarmigans)
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To: malkee

CW is lame.


14 posted on 11/05/2009 10:51:43 AM PST by Ptarmigan (God Hates Bunnies. God Loves Ptarmigans)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Oh, I understand it's important. I just doubt most parents can pull it off (not all - just most). The single best defense, as you pointed out, is probably keeping the computer in a central location.

The reason I have my doubts is that with the ubiquity of electronic access, combined with the fact that kids are inherently geared to learn new things such as technology (there are ways around filters using anonymous proxy routers if you know how to use them, which you can find in 10 seconds on Google - the only downside is the site may load a few seconds slower), means that parents are often behind the eight ball. Back in high school, my school paid for a ridiculously expensive network administration system through Nortel but a group of students used a keystroke logger to get the passwords that were needed. Most never cheated on anything in their life, but it was more about the challenge of being told to do something that the teachers bragged was impossible. It took about 2 days to get access to planning schedules, grade books, and emails. This was an enterprise system with a five-figure price tag that was beaten with a free, low cost hack.

(I mean, I've seen employers remove Internet Explorer entirely from a system to stop net access, thinking that would stop the problem, yet most younger people realize its built into the operating system so you can actually start browsing from any, boring desktop folder if you change the location to reference the http instead of the hard drive. This gets the system to launch a browsing session.)

You consider there is now Internet access at the local library, many new McDonald's, Starbucks, or Panera Breads, and it becomes quickly apparent that, unlike television in the older days, the Internet cannot be suppressed. A parent may make it inconvenient to access until 16 years old, but beyond that, it's going to be virtually impossible to stop a determined (and somewhat intelligent) teenager from seeing what he or she wants to see.

An interesting side note: What is probably most concerning is that several sociological studies show that the highest Internet pornography usage is among states with the highest proportion of traditional religion and the lowest among states such as California. The theory is that people want what they are told they can't have. It's the same reason we have 19 year olds in college die of alcohol poisoning and you don't see this happen in Germany. Here, alcohol is a forbidden fruit only for adults; there, it is something that even a child can have, in moderation, and they know the dangers of it. The stricter the limitations placed on people, the more they seek out and consume the forbidden thing when they get older and no one is around to see. You can read the study itself here.

15 posted on 11/05/2009 11:28:48 AM PST by WallStreetCapitalist
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You raise a lot of points in your reply. And I will admit that when I went away to college, that I picked up a box of (formerly forbidden) Cocoa Puffs for my first purchase. (Mom had no problem with Trix or Quake, but Chocolate cereal stepped over the line.)

I’m very familiar with the ways around filters, and even with college students, as I was a Mac small administrator at a small lib arts college in the post-Internet/pre-web days. Back then it was FTP and gopher. Of course, the most talented students were already messing around. I was also trying to write phony login script programs in BASIC under ETOS for the PDP-8 in the 70’s. (the biggest trick was getting the “no-scree-echo for the password. I almost had it licked by “opening” the ptr: (paper tape reader) as a device. For these reasons I like a hardware gate in a locked closet. Any keyboard logger will have to get around the one that I will have already been installed.

I guess I am talking about raising the kids so differently that they are only vaguely aware that there is a Google, or proxy servers, etc. My eldest are girls, and not particularly technically inclined.

Getting back to your point about certain problems being worse in religious environments, you have to be careful. I’ve been around enough to know that those kids raised with parents who are permissive on hard drugs and general supervision get in big trouble, and early on, too. The ones who were given condoms got in more trouble, and earlier, too.

The study you point to measures credit card purchased, online porn. Or, the most available, private porn out there. I would maintain the accessibility is a large part of the enabling factor, not the “naughty” factor. If it were mere curiosity, the free Internet has more than enough to satisfy that.

It is a problem, and priests all over the country affirm that. They also say it is a growing problem, again, easy accessibility, which I suppose was your original point long ago. But credit card purchases are being made by full grown men, not kids. If increasing accessibility increases the problem for adults, limiting it should have an even more salutarious effect with youngsters.

Of course, all this crap makes the parents’ job that much harder, and I have a big advantage over many parents, in that I have worked in IT for a LONG time, and know the in’s and out’s. I do know families that don’t even HAVE a computer in the house at all. Real old school. They live in Dixon, IL (Reagan’s home town) and the dad walks to his job at the Dept. of Transportation! Half of their 12 children are grown up, all are able, and none have shown any evidence of seeking forbidden fruit.

As my work relies on a well-equipped Internet PC setup, that is not an option for me. Different families will have to come along with different ways to protect their children. But I won’t throw my hands in the air and give up.


16 posted on 11/05/2009 12:06:44 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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