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1 posted on 02/05/2010 7:30:14 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping.


2 posted on 02/05/2010 7:30:34 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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If she was the last speaker of the language, to whom did she speak?


3 posted on 02/05/2010 7:34:37 PM PST by FrdmLvr ("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
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No more loss than the loss of the buggy whip industry. What value has a language that no one speaks? Is it really a language if no one uses it?
4 posted on 02/05/2010 7:38:12 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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Where’s the Rosetta Project when you need it?


5 posted on 02/05/2010 7:42:18 PM PST by re_tail20
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There was one and now none but that government bureaucracy to deal with them will live on for decades.


6 posted on 02/05/2010 7:43:07 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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Ymay ondolencescay.


7 posted on 02/05/2010 7:43:46 PM PST by Rebelbase
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Her tribe is related by DNA to Tibetans and Ainu.
Biological and Cultural history from a non middle eastern source. Too bad they didn’t write their history down.


8 posted on 02/05/2010 7:47:10 PM PST by Waverunner ( "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too." Voltaire)
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I should point out that since the guy was the only one who understood his own dialect, it actually fell into disuse when the other person who spoke it died.

I should also point out that language evolves. Like all human behavior, it changes over time. It adapts to fit the needs of the people who use it. Spelling, grammar, and syntax change as cultures shift their priorities from one ideal to another. The form of letters changes. If you fancy yourself a constitutional scholar, you know what ‘regulated’ meant in 1787 and what it means now. A ‘regulator’ is now a thing that controls voltage or pressure. It meant something entirely different in the West in 1875.

It’s funny that academics hoot and holler about evolution every time someone threatens to open a Bible, but when they are confronted with the actual process, they soil themselves in resistance.


9 posted on 02/05/2010 7:48:52 PM PST by sig226 (Bring back Jimmy Carter!)
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"Boa's loss is a bleak reminder that we must not allow this to happen to the other tribes of the Andaman Islands," he said in a statement.

I wonder how he wants to go about it. Should those poor tribesmen forced to study the language against their will? In modern, connected world there is no reason to speak the "native" language, especially if there isn't a ton of literary works in it (I suspect there aren't.) A child today would be much better off studying and speaking one of major languages, instead of learning the language that only a handful of people understand.

Local languages arose because of isolation of tribes. Once the Internet comes into every hut, fluency in other languages becomes essential, and old languages are set aside. If linguists are so upset about such a natural thing, they should learn and speak those dead languages themselves, instead of foisting this task onto others.

11 posted on 02/05/2010 7:53:03 PM PST by Greysard
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I would think that all languages are equally old, since no generation of human beings has been without language--every generation learned to talk from its parents. It's just that some languages have changed more slowly than others (for example, Icelandic). Languages spoken by very small numbers of indigenous speakers are going extinct all the time.

One of the Romance languages became extinct in 1898, when the last person who knew the Dalmatian language died. Some of the Romance dialects spoken in Switzerland are spoken by small numbers and could die out in a few more generations because German and Italian are much more useful for modern-day life.

13 posted on 02/05/2010 8:19:26 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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Uh,....tape recorders? CD’s, DVD’s, video recorders,......etc.


14 posted on 02/05/2010 8:21:45 PM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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In ancient times, hundreds of years before the dawn of history, an ancient race of people... the Druids. No one knows who they were or what they were doing...

16 posted on 02/05/2010 8:37:11 PM PST by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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Heghlu’meH QaQ jajvam!


19 posted on 02/05/2010 9:06:10 PM PST by BigCinBigD (")
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Many languages have come and gone. Language changes with the culture. It is essential that in order to know a particular culture you need to know the language. You can learn much about a culture from its vocabulary and syntax. It gives you a insight to how they envision their world. Language is essential for thought. If I were interested in studying a culture that spoke BO, then knowing the language would be important, otherwise, it serves no purpose.


20 posted on 02/05/2010 9:14:14 PM PST by Nosterrex
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We have lots of languages in the US that are going extinct because frankly, no one speaks them and they never adapted. For instance my mother spent years of her childhood in Wichita, there are very few speakers of it.

On one level it is sad but people who are interested need to preserve what they can for their history. There is a lot to learn from ancient language- many facts can be gleaned from them. But otherwise, it’s silly to want to preserve what very few want to use.

I’ve always been interested in accents, which are also rapidly dying - with mass communication, we are all learning to speak “television anchor”. My family grew up speaking “Brooklynese”, its always been reviled and slowly passing.

Ever hear old tapes of FDR and Elinor? They had an accent that wealthy people used to cultivate. It’s pretty much gone now.


22 posted on 02/05/2010 9:51:51 PM PST by I still care (A Republic - if you can keep it. - Ben Franklin)
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"Boa's loss is a bleak reminder that we must not allow this to happen to the other tribes of the Andaman Islands,"



Why?
24 posted on 02/05/2010 11:03:29 PM PST by shibumi (Health and well being for S. and L. - in Jesus name we pray!)
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Hoonch apesiiw,
iykuych apesiiw,
amat nyasaam,
amat hechkyalp.
Puy sinvech, pataly heqwik,
amat nyasaam, qwhilk we tuyaaw.
Emay, ahaa, hemaah,
Emay, ahaa, hemaah.

(Silent Night in Sycuan, once spoken in the San Diego area by the local native Americans. Before the last native speaker died in the 1970s, a professor from San Diego State learned it and gave it a written form. The children’s choir were taught some hymns in Sycuan, using his records, a few years later. I learned it from them, but I think I have forgotten much of the spelling.)


28 posted on 02/06/2010 6:35:22 AM PST by married21
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29 posted on 02/06/2010 7:44:17 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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