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To: cripplecreek
To tell you the truth, it sounds like a simple miscalculation in their math. If they simply add the extra 13mm per second, the unexpected acceleration goes away.

That would be a fudge factor.

The problem is that current models produce very accurate predictions for, inter alia, earth satellites, without fudge factors.

Gravity models are extremely well characterized as are the effects of solar radiation and other heavenly bodies. They explain and predict the orbits of artificial down to centimeters per day, or very small fractions of a millimeter per second, in the order of 0.005 mm/sec. 13.5 mm/second is HUGH, SERIES!

Unless you tell where in the model you think the 13.5 mm/second belongs, which parameters you care to modify and how your results are consist with satellite observations, your suggestion is useless.

It is provocative that all the anomalies occur on hyperbolic orbits, orbits for which the smaller body has escape velocity. Sir Isaac would be perturbed, since his laws, corrected by Dr. Einstein, used to work in both cases.

20 posted on 08/03/2010 1:12:54 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“That would be a fudge factor.”

Has Barney Frank been consulted concerning the “fudge factor”?


40 posted on 08/03/2010 2:45:20 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“They explain and predict the orbits of artificial down to centimeters per day, or very small fractions of a millimeter per second, in the order of 0.005 mm/sec.”

I don’t doubt this is true, but how come police radar guns can only measure speed +/- a couple of MPH? Call me easily impressed, but I’m just amazed they can figure out the speed of a spaceship a bazillion miles away with that kind of accuracy.


44 posted on 08/03/2010 3:18:44 PM PDT by DrC
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