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Hi-Point .45 ACP Carbine: Are Handgun Caliber Rifles the New Home Defense Shotgun?
The Truth About Guns ^ | 10 August, 2010 | Robert Farago

Posted on 08/11/2010 5:10:45 AM PDT by marktwain

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These carbines look very intimidating, are easy to shoot, and are quite reliable. I have one in 9mm, and the GF likes it. I'd prefer an AR-15 or mini-14 with frangible bullets, but they are quite a bit more expensive and louder.
1 posted on 08/11/2010 5:10:50 AM PDT by marktwain
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TTIWWP! The Kel Tec SUB2000.

2 posted on 08/11/2010 5:14:06 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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I like .45. Trying to find an 8-round double stack magazine for a Llama Minimax X 45 Subcompact (1911-style). If any Freeper has a lead, etc., I would be most grateful to hear.


3 posted on 08/11/2010 5:15:00 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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I have a Ruger PC-9 semi-auto police carbine, 9mm. It has ghost ring sights and a flashlight. I wouldn’t say it replaces a shotgun but it has its uses. It’s also a lot of fun to shoot.


4 posted on 08/11/2010 5:15:10 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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I have to disagree with the original post about the shotgun. For home defense, a scatter gun is perfect, not to mention the sound of a shucked shell will scare a good number of people off in no time.

That said, I would have a carbine in .45, if I didn’t have 3 .45’s already...;)


5 posted on 08/11/2010 5:15:16 AM PDT by shag377 (Illegitimis nil carborundum sunt!)
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Honey, hand me my Thompson. I think there is an intruder on the premises.


6 posted on 08/11/2010 5:16:31 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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,” a semi-automatic weapon is the best home defense shotgun. “

Gotta disagree, here — there’s no more intimidating sound, from man or nature, than the distinctive ‘racking’ of a pump-action shotgun...

Makes it much more likely to be able to defuse a situation without having to fire a shot....


7 posted on 08/11/2010 5:19:07 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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They’ve been talking about coming out with this 45 carbine for about 4 years. Glad it’s finally arrived. Now we have to see if it lives up to expectations.


8 posted on 08/11/2010 5:20:34 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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I have a Kel-Tec in .40 S&W. I never thought about using it as my "bedside" gun, but it folds up small enough to fit in my nightstand and it will accept a 29 round magazine. Hmmm ...


9 posted on 08/11/2010 5:21:19 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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handgun caliber rifles have been all the rage since 1873 (or actually 1860)

here is one of my original handgun caliber rifles circa 1882 (this is a file photo from the web...not mine...I have 2, 1 made in 1882 and the other,my son's, had filed off serial numbers, which has been corrected, and we dont know how old it is...)


10 posted on 08/11/2010 5:21:19 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Seems like a 115 yr old Win94 30-30 has roughly the same benefits and may already be in the family arsenal. Also I've noticed that a 18.5" barreled 12 gauge doesn't kick as much as the 26" barrel.

Some kind of welding mask lens like device in a pair of headphones might help on the sound issue - to know where to put the second round.

11 posted on 08/11/2010 5:22:09 AM PDT by Paladin2
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Honey, hand me my Thompson. I think there is an intruder on the premises.


12 posted on 08/11/2010 5:24:28 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Recently fired my neighbor’s Hi-Point 9mm and had a nice 3 inch grouping around in the target center at 25ft. A little tricky to chamber the first round, but feels great (the pistol and front grip), and easy/quick to sight. Needs a higher capacity magazine... 10 rounds??


13 posted on 08/11/2010 5:25:29 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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Lever actions have a pleasant racking sound too.


14 posted on 08/11/2010 5:25:30 AM PDT by Paladin2
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The key words here is “Home Defense”. Kinda hard keeping a rifle in your night stand drawer.

I prefer the Judge. But some cleanup required after shooting bad guy.

Here Comes the Judge! Taurus .45/410 Revolver

http://www.taurususa.com/video-theJudge.cfm


15 posted on 08/11/2010 5:26:27 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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I prefer a shotgun for home defense, but .45ACP carbines are nice. I have two, a Beretta Storm, and my favorite, a Marlin Camp Carbine in .45ACP that uses 1911 mags,


16 posted on 08/11/2010 5:28:46 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.....Eagle Scout since Sep 9, 1970)
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Why bother with a pistol-ammo rifle for home defense when you can have a revolver that shoots .45 or 4-10 ammo?

17 posted on 08/11/2010 5:28:50 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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18 posted on 08/11/2010 5:29:48 AM PDT by umgud (Obama is a failed experiment.)
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I’m probably in the minority, but HiPoint make some of the ugliest guns I’ve ever seen.


19 posted on 08/11/2010 5:30:36 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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You out-drew me by 2 minutes...or a lifetime on the Freeper clock.
20 posted on 08/11/2010 5:31:25 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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