I like .45. Trying to find an 8-round double stack magazine for a Llama Minimax X 45 Subcompact (1911-style). If any Freeper has a lead, etc., I would be most grateful to hear.
I have a Ruger PC-9 semi-auto police carbine, 9mm. It has ghost ring sights and a flashlight. I wouldn’t say it replaces a shotgun but it has its uses. It’s also a lot of fun to shoot.
I have to disagree with the original post about the shotgun. For home defense, a scatter gun is perfect, not to mention the sound of a shucked shell will scare a good number of people off in no time.
That said, I would have a carbine in .45, if I didn’t have 3 .45’s already...;)
,” a semi-automatic weapon is the best home defense shotgun. “
Gotta disagree, here — there’s no more intimidating sound, from man or nature, than the distinctive ‘racking’ of a pump-action shotgun...
Makes it much more likely to be able to defuse a situation without having to fire a shot....
They’ve been talking about coming out with this 45 carbine for about 4 years. Glad it’s finally arrived. Now we have to see if it lives up to expectations.
here is one of my original handgun caliber rifles circa 1882 (this is a file photo from the web...not mine...I have 2, 1 made in 1882 and the other,my son's, had filed off serial numbers, which has been corrected, and we dont know how old it is...)
Some kind of welding mask lens like device in a pair of headphones might help on the sound issue - to know where to put the second round.
Recently fired my neighbor’s Hi-Point 9mm and had a nice 3 inch grouping around in the target center at 25ft. A little tricky to chamber the first round, but feels great (the pistol and front grip), and easy/quick to sight. Needs a higher capacity magazine... 10 rounds??
The key words here is “Home Defense”. Kinda hard keeping a rifle in your night stand drawer.
I prefer the Judge. But some cleanup required after shooting bad guy.
Here Comes the Judge! Taurus .45/410 Revolver
http://www.taurususa.com/video-theJudge.cfm
I prefer a shotgun for home defense, but .45ACP carbines are nice. I have two, a Beretta Storm, and my favorite, a Marlin Camp Carbine in .45ACP that uses 1911 mags,
Why bother with a pistol-ammo rifle for home defense when you can have a revolver that shoots .45 or 4-10 ammo?
I’m probably in the minority, but HiPoint make some of the ugliest guns I’ve ever seen.
I agree with a few posters, a 12-gauge pump shotgun with 18” barrel is the perfect home defense gun. Discharging ANY weapon inside a house is going to be loud so I don’t buy that arguement there.
Don’t get me wrong, I have a .45acp I use for carry and HD as well but one has to be more precise with a .45acp round as opposed to a shotgun. A properly setup HD shotgun (instant-on light, 8+ round magazine, tritum sights) will be better in almost any situation. A pistol is handy for ‘clearing’ around walls and doors and should be on your hip as backup.
A Mini14/AR15 in a home? No F’in way, even with frangible bullets! Even 9mm and .45acp rounds will be a problem if you miss your target as a bullet will go through several walls before stopping. 00 and 000 shot will not penetrate through multiple walls yet all energy will be absorbed by an immediate target.
If the bg's a rational person, of course, he's gonna freeze and soil his pants. But what if he's in a separate reality from drugs, and he's armed or just physically capable of harm? Or what if he's a professional criminal who will know from that racking sound where to shoot, and that he's got about three microseconds to do it?
Check out this thread for an example:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2568496/posts
I can only suggest what other people do, of course, but in a standoff at my house the sound that guy's going to hear is a different one.
A .45 ACP Carbine would be cool -
the requirement that I would impose on it would be that it would accept .45 ACP handgun magazines, ie, are interchangeable.
I want my mags to be used by as many guns, interchangeably, as possible.
--in the unlikely situation where it will be fired at an intruder, the first two loads from my "coach gun" will be trap loads--not particularly noisy but can be followed by a couple with #4 buck---