If Obama were a muslim, would he let Michelle dress like that?

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again.

Obama has fondness for the Islamic religion. However, he claims to be a Christian.

I’ll put it this way, from his outward appearance, programs, and actions Obama believes in the higher power of SELF. He believes in his own power.

Only God the Father, and Jesus His Son know if Obama is a Christian.

Me? I think he’s a card-carrying member of the Church of Obama.

Exactly!

——————I hadn’t thought about it that way.-——————

I didn’t either until I really started to learn about liberation. Liberation is more marxist than anything, but it’s clothed in jesus and the bible.

—————Come to think of it, the differences may be more rhetorical than real. The practical outcome of collectivist systems is the establishment of a strict ruling order, supposedly temporary on the way to a classless utopia.————

Actually, I hadn’t thought about it that way. heh

The end outcome of all totalitarian and authoritarian constructs is that they rule you, you don’t rule you.

It’s the path, or the sophistry that’s totally different though.

-————In Islam, the ruling class is theologically based, but in many ways the effect is the same.——————

Right. But are they collectivist in nature; their teachings.

For the most part........... AFAIK not really.

——————I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again.

Obama has fondness for the Islamic religion. However, he claims to be a Christian.——————

I agree 100%.

Everybody in the liberation “faith” claims to be christian. I suppose, technically they are.

-—————I’ll put it this way, from his outward appearance, programs, and actions Obama believes in the higher power of SELF. He believes in his own power.—————

LOL........... well he is the one we’ve been waiting for.

But from a historical perspective, cults of personality are a big deal in marxist societies. Obama is no different.

-—————Only God the Father, and Jesus His Son know if Obama is a Christian.———————

To know for 100%, yeah probably.

But at a minimum, while I’m sure it would take a slick lawyer to do it, Obama might be indicted-able as a muslim.

But I think any average joe who spent some time reading could indict him as a liberation(black or otherwise) follower without much else.

It’s the shoe that best fits.

I had this discussion with a friend of mine from church; basically, we should be able to get a ‘hint’ from his works, and words.

Does supporting partial-birth abortion align oneself with Christ?

Does taking wealth from those who work and giving to those who either don’t or break the law align oneself with Christ?

Does declaring the nation is not a “Christian” nation align oneself with Christ?

Does obfuscating your upbringing, origin, teaching, writings align oneself with Christ?

Does aligning oneself as an enemy of Israel align one with Christ?

Matt 7:15-20 (ESV)
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.

How Closet Muslims are Possible [“al-Taqiyya”]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2496737/posts?page=1033#1033

“He’s most likely an atheist who uses religion to advance his political agenda.”

I agree. I think he’s trying to con both muslims and Christians simultaneously [I believe he’s whispering “al-Taqiyya” to people like the Egyptian foreign minister]. He’s hoping to gain diplomatic leverage. [In truth, it’s a way they gain more influence over him.]

Many muslims only pretend. It’s safer that way because muslims will put a fatwa on your head if you renounce Allah.

Actually, Islam is such a backwards religion that you end up reverting to a feudal system every single time. It creates perpetual turmoil — no governmental solution will ever be permanent.

We [Christians] went through a feudal phase in the Dark Ages. Uniting in the Crusades helped relieve pressure, but the only way out is through religious competition. Once the scriptures could be read in different languages, we were freed by the scriptures and competed. Our scriptures also lead to a very stable society [unless it is undermined by atheists]. Islam, however, requires submission and violence — violent conversion, tribute, and open contempt.

Its scripture was also founded on a single generation [like almost all religions], which weakens its credibility. Thus, strong men will always find a gang of rogue atheists [who only give the faintest lip service to Allah]. These brutes will continue to rise and fall in the Islamic landscape.

Thanks Arthur Wildfire! March. :’)

Obama`s are both trash. Are they Muslim, I have no idea, but they are not Christian because they are for aborting God`s children.

Trash is what they are

I don’t think he is. I believe he worships the “Allah” he sees in the mirror every day.

Did you ever wrestle a Wookie to get it into a burka?

The answer to all of those questions is yes, if you look at christ as a liberator and know liberation theology.

At least on the surface anyways. I am no expert on liberation theology, and I hope you are studying it too.

LOL

That fairy can’t make her do anything.

IMO He pretty much lost interest in what she does, unless it messes with his world.

I’m pretty sure that MO doesn’t need BO’s permission to do anything, including dressing as she chooses.

I do, however, think that if he really loved her he’d encourage her to switch stylists.

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Obama, since he was born of a Muslim father, was born a Muslim by Islamic law.
There is no doubt he is STILL a Muslim.

Just a few quotes from his speeches:

“Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“it is important for Western countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they see fit”
Barack Hussein Obama

“We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over so many centuries to shape the world for the better, including my own country.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“The contribution of Muslims to the United States are too long to catalog because Muslims are so interwoven into the fabric of our communities and our country”
Barack Hussein Obama

“I have lived in a Muslim-majority country... I know, because I am one of them.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“And since our founding, American Muslims have enriched the United States.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“Moreover, freedom in America is indivisible from the freedom to practice one’s religion. That is why there is a mosque in every state of our union, and over 1,200 mosques within our borders. That is why the U.S. government has gone to court to protect the right of women and girls to wear the hijab, and to punish those who would deny it.”
Barack Hussein Obama

“We are not nor have we even been at war with Islam”
Barack Hussein Obama

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This is what the Marxist/Muslim
has done with American tax dollars while
Americans lose their jobs and homes-
and as he prepares to stick Americans with
the highest tax in history!

BILLIONS FOR JIHAD!

Obama’s 2009 Supplemental Appropriations for Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Pandemic Flu was revised and “passed by the full committee.” Not sure what the next step is, but based on the summary, it gives billions http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/obamas-supplemental-bill-passes-gives-billions-to-enemies/
of U.S. taxpayer dollars to countries and entities that support Sharia law and/or harbor, hide and support those who want to destroy the U.S. and our allies.
Read the summary from David Obey’s office that was quietly released last week with nary a word from any media.

• $3.6 billion, matching the request, to expand and improve capabilities of the Afghan security forces

• $400 million, as requested, to build the counterinsurgency capabilities of the Pakistani security forces

• Afghanistan: $1.52 billion, $86 million above the request

• West Bank and Gaza: $665 million in bilateral economic, humanitarian, and security assistance for the West Bank and Gaza

• Jordan: $250 million, $250 million above the request, including $100 million for economic and $150 million for security assistance

• Egypt: $360 million, $310 million above the request, including $50 million for economic assistance, $50 million for border security, and $260 million for security assistance

• Pakistan: $1.9 billion, $591 million above the request

• Iraq: $968 million, $336 million above the request

• Oversight: $20 million, $13 million above the request, to expand oversight capacity of the State Department, USAID, and the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan to review programs in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq

• Lebanon: $74 million

• International Food Assistance: $500 million, $200 million above the request, for PL 480 international food assistance to alleviate suffering during the global economic crisis

• Refugee Assistance: $343 million, $50 million above the request, …including humanitarian assistance for Gaza. Funding for the UN Relief and Works Agency programs in the West Bank and Gaza is limited to $119 million (Note: Gaza = Hamas)

• Disaster Assistance: $200 million to avert famines and provide life-saving assistance during natural disasters and for internally displaced people around the world, including Somalia, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, the Middle East and South Asia

• Peacekeeping: $837 million for United Nations peacekeeping operations, including an expanded mission in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and a new mission in Chad and the Central African Republic

• Department of Justice: $17 million, matching the request, for counter-terrorism activities and to provide training and assistance for the Iraqi criminal justice system
The mainstream media remains silent on this but the International News has now picked up the story http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=22164
— and then there is Obama’s $108 billion IMF bailout scheme http://michellemalkin.com/2009/05/13/obamas-100-billion-imf-bailout-scheme/
in addition to the Supplemental.

And THIS is what Obama is doing to American taxpayers:
THE BIGGEST TAX HIKE IN AMERICAN HISTORY:
http://www.atr.org/days-thebr-largest-tax-hikes-history-a5370
PDF Version:
http://www.atr.org/files/files/090310pr-jan2011taxes.pdf

Obama gives your tax dollars to rebuild Muslim mosques around the world

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/26990#

According to the Associated Press, the Obama administration will give away nearly $6 million of American tax dollars to restore 63 historic and cultural sites, including Islamic mosques and minarets, in 55 nations. See the State Department document here.
http://exchanges.state.gov/media/pdfs/office-of-policy-and-evaluations/ambassadors-fund/afcp2010list.pdf

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From Dreams From My Father: “THE PERSON WHO MADE ME PROUDEST OF ALL, THOUGH, WAS MY [half brother], ROY..HE CONVERTED TO ISLAM”.

From ‘Dreams From my Father’, “IN INDONESIA, I SPEND TWO YEARS AT A MUSLIM SCHOOL” “..I STUDIED THE KORAN..”

‘Audacity of Hope: “LOLO (Obama’s step father) FOLLOWED ISLAM....”I LOOKED TO LOLO FOR GUIDANCE”.

From ‘The Audacity Of Hope, “I WILL STAND WITH THEM (MUSLIMS) SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS OF WAR SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION..”

http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20080101164820/http://www.examiner.co m/a-536474~_Trapped_between_two_worlds_.html?cid=dc-article-obama
http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20080101164820/http://www.examiner.com/a-536474~_Trapped_between_two_worlds_.html?cid=dc-article-obama
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OBAMA MOCKS THE BIBLE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnmS_vULPxw

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0bamas’ hidden records:
Why are these off limits?
Why has he paid out millions to lawyers
to keep all this hidden???

1 Certified copy of original birth certificate

2 Columbia University transcripts

3 Columbia thesis paper

4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups

5 Harvard University transcripts

6 Illinois State Senate records

7 Illinois State Senate schedule

8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary

9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother

10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)

11 Occidental College Transcripts

12 Parent’s marriage Certificate

13 Record of baptism

14 Selective Service registration records

(Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service?
This supposed revelation of 0’s SS records has been debunked here and here.)

15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007

16 Passport records for all passports

17 Scholarly articles

18 SAT and LSAT test scores

19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya

20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists

21 Punahou grade school records

22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.

23 Obama 1964 Divorce Papers - 13 Pages - Missing Pg 11

24 Why isn’t Barack Obama still a member of the Illinois bar and where are all of the relevant documents?

25 Why isn’t Michelle Obama still a member of the Illinois bar, after only about four years of practice, and where are all of the relevant documents?
Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.

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Obama said the Muslim call to prayer
is “one of the prettiest sounds on earth,”
in an interview with Nicholas Kristof,
published
in The New York Times. Kristof described Obama’s recitation of the Muslim call to prayer,
the Adhan, “with a first-class [Arabic]
accent.”

The opening lines of the Adhan (Azaan) is the Shahada:
“Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet... “
According to Islamic scholars, reciting the Shahada, the Muslim declaration of faith, makes one a Muslim. This simple yet profound statement expresses a Muslim’s complete acceptance of, and total commitment to, the message of Islam.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.3413/pub_detail.asp
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/11679
http://jewagainstobama.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/obama-muslim-call-to-prayer-one-of-the-prettiest-sounds-on-earth/
http://caosblog.com/archives/7373

Obama belonged to Rev. Wright’s (a former Muslim) church for twenty years. Many congregants are Muslims.
http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/04/07/jeremiah-wright-former-muslim/
http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/03/20/rev-wright-got-his-masters-degree-in-islam-in-west-africa/
http://endtimes.yuku.com/forum/viewtopic/id/289
• Obama’s said that the U.S. is “one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.”
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyharnden/9959057/Barack_Hussein_Obama_US_one_of_the_largest_Muslim_countries_in_the_world/
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/06/obama_america_one_of_the_large_1.asp
• Obama holds Muslim celebrations in the WH but canceled the National Day of Prayer.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1724544/obama_cancels_national_day_of_prayer.html?cat=9
http://www.exposeobama.com/
• Obama holds Muslim celebrations in the WH but canceled the National Day of Prayer.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1724544/obama_cancels_national_day_of_prayer.html?cat=9
http://www.exposeobama.com/
• President Obama’s religious adviser, Eboo Patel, once deemed the United States “the ideal place for the renewal of Islam.”
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/06/-obama-tells-egyptian-foreign-minister-i-am-a-muslim-stealth-coup-on-the-white-house.html

• Obama falsely attributes Muslim participation in the founding of America.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.7041/pub_detail.asp
• Obama required that the cross be covered when he gave a speech at Notre Dame.
http://blog.acton.org/archives/9843-notre-dame-georgetown-and-president-obama.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/11/opinion/main5006203.shtml
http://dougpowers.com/2009/04/17/obamas-jesus-coverup/
• Christian symbol covered up during Obama’s Georgetown speech
http://myfaithspace.ning.com/profiles/blogs/obama-covers-christ-and-cross
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=46667
• Obama’s first major speech in office was a “Muslim outreach” speech in Cairo Egypt.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-by-the-President-at-Cairo-University-6-04-09/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8083171.stm
Obama gave strong support to the Cordoba House community center and mosque to be built at the Ground Zero site of Sep. 11, 2001 at a dinner celebrating the day’s end of the first day of Ramadan at the WH.
http://www.aolnews.com/surge-desk/article/president-obama-supports-ground-zero-mosque/19593492?ncid=webmail
• Obama tasked NASA with a mission of “Muslim outreach.”
http://technology.newsplurk.com/2010/07/nasa-and-islam.html
• Obama referred to his faith as “my Muslim faith” gaffe in an interview with George Stephanopolous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I
• Pushes Islamic freedom of religion but not Jewish or Christian freedoms. Several weeks ago he told Israel NOT to build settlements in East Jerusalem. But OK to build that Mosque at Ground Zero.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/7514285/Israel-spits-in-Obamas-eye-by-announcing-new-settlements-in-east-Jerusalem.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/24/barack-obama-israel-settlement-plan

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More evidence that Obama is a Muslim from his own speeches (video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY

• The FIRST thing Obama did as a newly elected Illinois State Senator was to attempt to declare a Muslim holiday. Obama sponsored Bill SR0110 in the 90th General Assembly to declare November 1, 1997 to be Islamic Community Center Day. It did not pass.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/summary/900SR0110.html
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/srgroups/sr/900SR0110LV.html

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Obama appoints Muslims to key security
posts:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/134466

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Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit said
he had a one-on-one meeting with Obama,
where Obama told him that
He was still a Muslim,
and that he was sympathetic towards
the Muslim agenda.
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/76/647/Egyptian_minister:_Obama_told_me_he_is_a_Muslim.html

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Little known facts about Obama:
In 2001, Obama sponsored Illinois Senate Bill 750 creating the “Halal Food Act,” providing for inspections by the Department of Agriculture to ensure that all food labeled Halal is prepared according to Islamic law. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/summary/920SB0750.html

This act plays into Islamization. Here’s how it works and how Halal food plays a role:
“From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.
They will push for the introduction of halaal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply