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To: Pearls Before Swine

Right. But both Wright and Obama - while being formerly muslims (which IMHO is where their sympathies come in) became followers of liberation instead.

I haven’t seen much that shows Islam to be a collectivist religion. There may be some aspects of it that are, but liberation is purely about the collective and not about the individual.

Of which both Obama and Wright clearly espouse. They love collectivism.


21 posted on 09/09/2010 5:00:48 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Minority Report 2: Tea Party Participant)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
I haven’t seen much that shows Islam to be a collectivist religion. There may be some aspects of it that are, but liberation is purely about the collective and not about the individual.

I hadn't thought about it that way. Come to think of it, the differences may be more rhetorical than real. The practical outcome of collectivist systems is the establishment of a strict ruling order, supposedly temporary on the way to a classless utopia. That ruling class, the apparatchiks in Russia, directs those below.

In Islam, the ruling class is theologically based, but in many ways the effect is the same. The higher up on the tree you are, the more powerful your fatwas, and the non-clerical have to abide by it. The courts, too, are ruled as much by whimsy and connection as by law, under both systems.

Both systems are totalitarian, with an emphasis on "total", ven though the narrative is different.

24 posted on 09/09/2010 5:08:50 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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