Did Uruk soldiers kill their own people? 5,500 year old fratricide at Hamoukar Syria

heritage-key.com ^ | 09/23/2010 | owenjarus

[Little Bill]

The initial report of this dig was posted here a few years ago this is a follow up.

[Little Bill]

Brotherly love ping, read the full article very good,

[Einherjar]

paleo-muslims promoting their cause ?

[Lonely Bull]

Uruk, hi!

[muawiyah]

Not quite ~ these folks would be the non-semitic speaking indigenous inhabitants who invented writing.

They get credited with war now.

Ain't civilization grand!

[DefeatCorruption]

Wow, just yesterday I was reading about this massacre in my Doctor's waiting room (Discover Magazine) and was haunted by it....basically nothing has changed since the dawn of civilization. Didn't think to look at the magazine's date.

[Dacus943]

"Uruk, hi!"

That has a nice Ring to it!

[Little Bill]

http://discovermagazine.com/2009/dec/03-dawn-of-civilization-writing-urban-life-warfare

This One?

[Little Bill]

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/09/070907-syria-graves.html

Here is some more a bit older.

[bunkerhill7]

So, if the invading army was from Uruk, did they kill their own people? If so why?

Answer: They were killed under Sumerian Obummercare because they couldn`t afford any health insurance and no money to pay the fine for not having any.

[dominic flandry]

Perhaps the Hamoukarians wiped out the Urukian colony and so Uruk sent an army to retaliate and wipe out the Hamoukarians. Seems to me this is a more likely scenario.

[chopperman]

Is this a ‘Burgh’ thing?

[DefeatCorruption]

http://discovermagazine.com/2009/dec/03-dawn-of-civilization-writing-urban-life-warfare

This One?
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Yes, this is the one. Thanks for sending, now I can read it again.

[SunkenCiv]

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[ApplegateRanch]

Of course they killed their own.

The Fighting Uruk Hai were well known for killing each other when Sauron or Saruman couldn’t point them at any other opponents.

[ApplegateRanch]

Oh; excuse me. It said “Middle East”, not “Middle Earth”.

[ApplegateRanch]

if the invading army was from Uruk, did they kill their own people? If so why?

Fair question, as is: why did Sherman burn 'from Atlanta to the sea'; or why did the British burn Washington?

Civil wars and rebellions and their aftermaths somehow seem to have a way of being 'people killing their 'own' people'...can't imaging how that comes about, but it may be an answer to look for here. *<];-)

I also read the original, and then, as well as now, am intrigued by the 'clay bullets', as if the Middle East doesn't have enough stones to use. Never seems to be any shortage for the Palis to throw at Joooz; or Muslims to use for stoning women.

[Sherman Logan]

am intrigued by the 'clay bullets', as if the Middle East doesn't have enough stones to use.

Quite simple. Standard shape, size and weight from a mold increases accuracy and thus lethality over random stones. Lead "bullets" for slings, when those became available during Hellenistic times, worked even better.

[Sherman Logan]

Beat me to it! :)

[bigheadfred]

Middle East...Middle Earth

There's a difference?

The Moslems were well known for killing each other when __________ (fill in the blank with your fav) couldn’t point them at any other opponents.