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C-17 crash blamed on errors shared by all
Anchorage Daily News ^ | December 11th, 2010 | RACHEL D'ORO

Posted on 12/11/2010 8:27:23 AM PST by skeptoid

A pilot's overly aggressive aerial acrobatics and overconfidence were blamed in an investigative report for a C-17 plane crash at an Anchorage military base that killed all four airmen on board. Besides pilot error, the crew on board was also faulted for failing to notice the dangerous situation that culminated with the plane stalling and crashing into woods July 28 at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: aerospace; alaska; c17
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Precisely the same scenario as the 1994 Fairchild AFB B 52 crash.

Go to the source for a video of the entire flight (less than one minute).
It ends just before impact.

1 posted on 12/11/2010 8:27:32 AM PST by skeptoid
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To: skeptoid

Yeah, Fairchild immediately occurred to me as well.

What’s with these cowboys-in-the-cockpit pretending to be fighter aces.


2 posted on 12/11/2010 8:30:09 AM PST by steve86
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To: steve86

The C-17 is an EXTREMELY capable aircraft. Combine a pilot’s natural bravado with someone who gets a little carried away and you get accidents like this and Fairchild AFB. It’s very easy to overestimate your and your aircraft’s capabilities.


3 posted on 12/11/2010 8:34:01 AM PST by AntiKev ("Within the strangest people, truth can find the strangest home." - Great Big Sea - Company of Fools)
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To: skeptoid

Watching the video, the pilot was an idiot.


4 posted on 12/11/2010 8:34:37 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: skeptoid

With regard to the Buff crash, I have never discovered how many levels of command were mustered out because of that situation.


5 posted on 12/11/2010 8:35:17 AM PST by Erasmus (Personal goal: Have a bigger carbon footprint than Tony Robbins.)
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To: steve86

It’s true.

When I was stationed in Frankfurt with The Army, I used to hang out at the Rhein Main AFB officer’s club on occasion. Transports only, not a fighter within 200 miles or more.

So, I notice these ‘aces’ standing at the bar, still in their flight suits at 10:30 on a Saturday (WTF?), and they’re all doing the aerial-combat hands thingy. You know what I mean, the left hand is maneuvering from lag to pure pursuit in order to get a gun kill on their right hands.

So, my roommate goes up and stands next to them, and holds both hands out in front of him like he’s driving a bus. While they’re waving their hands around, he’s leaning back making fun of them until they finally notice, stop their bullshit, and turn back to the bar.

And the Navy guys are even worse.


6 posted on 12/11/2010 8:37:54 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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aerial acrobatics (sic)

aerobatics, Rachel.

7 posted on 12/11/2010 8:39:06 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: AntiKev
The C-17 is an EXTREMELY capable aircraft.. . . . ..

.. . . . .but it always obeys the rules:

We must NEVER forget the ABC's, boys and girls!!

9 posted on 12/11/2010 8:48:48 AM PST by skeptoid (The Road to Serfdom is being paved by RINOS)
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To: skeptoid

Oh my, it makes me heartsick to see that video. :( So much tragedy... all for glory sought.


10 posted on 12/11/2010 8:56:32 AM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: MarineBrat

You said it all.


11 posted on 12/11/2010 9:01:45 AM PST by skeptoid (The Road to Serfdom is being paved by RINOS)
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To: CodeToad
.... the pilot was an idiot.....

O, I don't know. Might have been a fun yank and bank at 20,000 ft! His first turn was hairy enough for any man, but then that "hey guys, watch this" to the right sure was painful to watch.

Perhaps he was planning to buzz the tower ...inverted? BTW, pretty impressive short-field takeoff.

12 posted on 12/11/2010 9:08:19 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (America can survive fools in office. It cannot long survive the fools who vote for them.)
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To: skeptoid
Rule: Big aircraft do not fly sideways worth a $hit. Lots of small aircraft have the same “problem”.
13 posted on 12/11/2010 9:11:18 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: skeptoid

From what I’ve heard the pilot was noted for that kind of flying. Always hotdogging that big hunk of metal.


14 posted on 12/11/2010 9:21:47 AM PST by Vinnie
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He pulled that radical, high-G turn in those last seconds because he realized his flight path was going to take him over a nuke storage area, which is a very big no-no.

It was the final flight of his career. His family was present to greet him when he landed.


15 posted on 12/11/2010 9:47:49 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: skeptoid

Sorry, I’m refering to the B-52 incident, not the C-17.


16 posted on 12/11/2010 9:51:03 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: ghannonf18

Well, you’re certainly not practicing your spelling.


17 posted on 12/11/2010 9:51:03 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Steely Tom

At least he got the “final flight” part right.


18 posted on 12/11/2010 9:51:56 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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At least he got the “final flight” part right.

Yeah, I should have said "it was to have been the final flight of his career."

19 posted on 12/11/2010 9:56:47 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: skeptoid
As the poster on the ready room wall said,

“Aviation in itself is not inherently dangerous. But to an even greater degree than the sea, it is terribly unforgiving of any carelessness, incapacity or neglect.”

Or, as my on-wing instructor in primary said “ignore the basics at your peril”!

20 posted on 12/11/2010 9:56:59 AM PST by lowbuck (The Blue Card (US Passport) Don't leave home without it.)
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