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To: Chasaway

The most major feature you want (the 1-8 twist barrel) is invisible. The one in 8 twist lets you shoot the 80 grain bullets and that opens the door to a wider world. A 223 with 80 grain bullets can kill game animals and hit targets 1000 meters away; the standard 55-gr bullets can’t.


5 posted on 03/22/2011 3:13:11 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946; Chasaway
This fellow starting the thread wants to spend as little as possible, then posts pictures of match-style ARs. Oy. (*rubbing my temples*).

If that's what you want, I'd get an assembled AR upper from one of the better shops that offer them after shopping around. I'm not sure if by 'spending as little as I can' means 'I want it cheap' or 'I want to save some money even though I'm about to pay thousands'. Looks to me like at least two of those rifles have NightForce scopes on them, and you're aware that the price on these starts around $2,000 or more?

The stocks in the pictures include a standard M4 4-position, an A2 stock, and in the first and last pics what appears to be a CAA and an older MagPul PRS. They're all using some sort of free floating match tube forearm, a couple of them being CMMG.

The solution that Wendy mentions would mean you're going to need a specially throated match barrel with a lot of freebore for 80gr, and then a you're pretty much limited to shooting that specific manufacturer's 80gr cartridge exclusively. An 80gr 5.56mm round may or may not fit a standard AR magazine due to length, and as a result some match and varmint shooters using loads like these manually insert one round at a time through the ejection port and snap the bolt closed with the bolt release. Personally, I think anyone wanting to go down this path should stop screwing around with 5.56mm and just step up to an AR-10 in 7.62 which would make their lives and personal economy easier.

15 posted on 03/22/2011 3:44:22 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: wendy1946
A 223 with 80 grain bullets can kill game animals and hit targets 1000 meters away; the standard 55-gr bullets can’t.

I disagree. I've used the 55-gr bullets to hunt game before an killed a rabbit at 100 yards. Of course it took three hits to bring it down ...

42 posted on 03/23/2011 5:57:49 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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