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Hypothetical scenario......What if Governor Palin, doesn't run ?
free republic ^ | 05/13/2011 | Sonny M

Posted on 05/13/2011 10:39:53 AM PDT by Sonny M

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To: A'elian' nation

“Rubio is as ‘natural born’ as Obama.

like it or not precedent has been set.

I agree, fair is fair. If that is the case I guess no opposition remains. Unless sometime our Supreme Court wakes the heck up.


81 posted on 05/13/2011 7:46:16 PM PDT by Persevero (We don't need Superman -- we have the Special Forces)
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To: Sonny M; All

1. She’s not going to run.

2. Anyone who thinks she’s our best possible candidate is living in fantasyland. If she runs and wins the nomination, Obama will win in a landslide. She knows this and she therefore won’t run. Get a grip, people.


82 posted on 05/13/2011 7:57:07 PM PDT by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: Sonny M

It`s Sarah Palin or BUST!!

I can tell you I would NOT support Michelle Bachmann! The idea that she felt she could/should run against Sarah Palin, completely discredits herself.

Yes she has the right to run, just like they have a right to build a mosque at ground zero....HEAVY SARCASM


83 posted on 05/13/2011 7:59:54 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012, PLEASE LORD)
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To: EveningStar

I see you parrot the lines of the left wing. Why do they constantly beat her down if she is not a threat? The left is going to pound their biggest threats and talk up their easiest foes. McCain was a media darling, and Mitt has been the media ‘front runner’ since the last election. Palin has by far the most talent amongst GOP candidates. The only question is whether the beat down has damaged her too much, or whether she followed the best course of action following 2008 to help her viability. I don’t expect her to run, but I do not dismiss the potential.


84 posted on 05/13/2011 8:00:55 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Friendofgeorge
It`s Sarah Palin or BUST!!

I can tell you I would NOT support Michelle Bachmann! The idea that she felt she could/should run against Sarah Palin, completely discredits herself.

Part of me wonders if the reason Michelle Bachman is running, is because she knows that Palin isn't...

Its why I'm looking at back ups, "or bust" is not someone I'm looking at.....

85 posted on 05/13/2011 8:11:02 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: arrogantsob

A socialist is a patient communist. Both want to usurp God’s role in society with more government.

I have to question the motives of someone who thinks that conservatives only have the choice of one of two parties. If you think that the Republican party or Democrat party are working for the interests of the American people you are a complete moron or a commie useful idiot yourself.

These fools running both parties here would not be given the time of day by our great founding fathers. You disgust real patriots like my by suggesting I am un-American by rejecting them. Please take your republican suck-up comments elsewhere. This is FREE REPUBLIC, not “lesser of two evils” republic.


86 posted on 05/13/2011 10:03:16 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe ( "Failure to speak out against evil is evil itself" - Dietrich Bonhoeffer)
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To: PhiloBedo

Not only that, but I’ll be losing money at Intrade.


87 posted on 05/13/2011 10:17:23 PM PDT by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Sonny M

What if the earth stops rotating on its axis? What if the sun stops rising in the East? Funny hypothesis LMAO.


88 posted on 05/13/2011 10:21:20 PM PDT by SarahPalinForPresident2012 (She's runnin')
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To: SarahPalinForPresident2012
What if the earth stops rotating on its axis? What if the sun stops rising in the East? Funny hypothesis LMAO.

Then the whole point is moot...

I hope, really hope your not saying that if Palin doesn't run, then the whole election and the whole point is moot...

My thinking, is the same as, if she was president, this is why we have VP's.

What if something happens to the President, well, we have the Vice President, and what if something happens to the Vice President, well, then the speaker of the house, and so on.

If we have that kind of thinking for elected officials, it might be wise, to have that kind of mindset for candidates we prefer......

To be honest, as much as I am hoping Palin runs, I really suspect, that she won't, and am wondering, if she will wind up endorsing someone, and campaigning for them.

89 posted on 05/13/2011 10:34:32 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: RitaOK
Voting down Obama by having to support a winner who doesn’t pass my purity test is hardly cowardice, it’s courage.

"Voting down Obama" is your fear-filled assessment of what stands in front of us. My courage-filled assessment is voting IN a Republican who holds up the banner of a necessary movement toward limited government.

Going the fear-filled way is how I have voted straight ticket for something like 35 years, and caused much damage in the doing by voting for, giving my validation and blessing to, a politician who did things contrary to my principles more than half the time.

The problem is not Obama. The problem is liberal minorities in both parties seizing power. When at least 50 percent of Republicans are voting OUT OF FEAR for someone quite a lot more liberal than they are, then all that is doing is to compound and infect the problem.

The "lesser of two evils" argument wrongly assumes which is the lesser evil. Fear is a warning, and a useful tool. But fear is a LOUSY PLACE to come from when voting, as it is becomming more and more evident. Schwarzenegger, anyone? And look what followed -- an even more insanely liberal Jerry Brown, because Schwarzenegger skewed the "center" so far to the left. THE SAME THING WILL HAPPEN on a Presidential scale if business-as-usual Republicanism takes the White House. The next Democrat president will make Obama look like Boehner.

Fear is a good alert system, but a poor guide to solutions.

90 posted on 05/14/2011 3:16:07 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Sonny M

Cross that bridge when you come to it. I didn’t mean the world would come to an end if she didn’t run but just that it’s too much speculation too early.


91 posted on 05/14/2011 5:31:29 AM PDT by SarahPalinForPresident2012 (She's runnin')
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To: MikeSteelBe

3rd Party Candidates do not work. They are what the Dems plan to stay in Power.

Not the solution. Nor are the RINO’s.

Dems are Traitors. I don’t know a single candidate left with the Dem label that is not. Commies control the entire party. The only people who don’t see this are hopelessly blind, or lying and are fellow traitors.

RINO Globalists are as bad and must be eliminated in the Primary.


92 posted on 05/14/2011 5:46:21 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Persevero
fair is fair

BS! The Constitution requires a candidate to be a "natural born" citizen for a reason. Undivided loyalty. What you advocate simply dilutes the chains on government wrought by the U.S. Constitution. Just what the Dems want, to destroy the nation.

93 posted on 05/14/2011 5:51:13 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: MikeSteelBe
This is FREE REPUBLIC

Your date stamp and position indicate to me that you don't know what Free Republic is. Troll

94 posted on 05/14/2011 5:54:15 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Sonny M
MB has no idea IMHO. If she knew one way or the other, would mean that Sarah was playing us, THIS IS NOT THE CASE!

Also Sarah had a chance on National tv at least twice when asked if ANY of the names mentioned out there so far would have her support? She very quickly said NO, not yet!

That was quite telling and it was NOT an endorsement for MB.

MB camp has reportedly been saying unflattering remarks about Sarah Palin.

So many of the people mentioned are all about me me me I etc. That`s how I see MB

Sarah Palin or Bust!

95 posted on 05/14/2011 6:29:00 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012, PLEASE LORD)
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To: Friendofgeorge
I don't believe Bachman has said anything derogatory about Palin.

Every time I have seen Bachman say anything about Palin, it has been either neutral or praising (and the neutral were on statements of fact, not opinion).

Palin isn't excited about the field, neither am I, one of the reasons I like Palin, is she is a straight shooter.

That said, if Palin runs, I doubt you'd see the 2 of them on the same stage debating.

I do think Bachman knows something, she isn't reckless.

It should also be noted, that Bachmans district is expected to be wiped out for the next cycle.

96 posted on 05/14/2011 6:37:03 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: SarahPalinForPresident2012
Cross that bridge when you come to it. I didn’t mean the world would come to an end if she didn’t run but just that it’s too much speculation too early.

This isn't heavy emergency stuff now, I happen to like be prepared, I also like lists (isn't it obvious, lol).

Its like opening the preseason in football or baseball, you always want depth, and you always want to be prepared for injury.

That said, I remember the effect Gore had on the 2004 primary, in the end, Kerry won that primary anyway (mostly because he was committed to running no matter what) while alot of the candidates were a bit hesitant to jump in, if Gore was going to run....It screwed up a couple of them, staff wise, because they had assumed Gore was in.......I don't want to get caught the same way.

97 posted on 05/14/2011 7:39:34 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Finny

You are exactly right of course, but on the other hand this year may be unusually important and going third party is the marxists prayer, along with us voting for some nominee who will lose in the general election across the nation and coast to coast. Having already seen and learned what that kind of “principled voting” has cost us in the past, it is very hard to pretend that it works given the poor history and the present odds.

Obama was radically Left but knew how to charm and say things like “not the red states, or the blue states, but the United State.” He could not have been elected with a trail of his real philosophy broadly known. Our candidates have a trail of conservative speak that may not sell beyond the primary nomination. Yes, I’m worried. We have to win.


98 posted on 05/14/2011 8:03:29 AM PDT by RitaOK
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To: arrogantsob
But the Ultras hate everyone who is not 100% in accord with them and their conceptions of what conservatism means which makes it almost impossible to select a nominee without enormous rancor and disruption. Look at what happened in ‘08.

Their not "Ultras"; their just common-sense conservatives who recognize the shaky ground that at least two of those candidates you mentioned, Daniels and Christie, live on in terms of conservatism.

The fact you refuse to take into consideration the information that has been posted here "ad nauseum" about both of those candidates is more a reflection about your choice to ignore salient and important information that about your opinion about the extreme nature of those who are actually paying attention.
99 posted on 05/14/2011 8:59:34 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Sonny M

We have some interesting choices to choose from:

Romney (won’t back off of Romney-Care)
Huckabee (disastrous immigration/economic policies)
Newt (Pelosi-Couchgate)
Cain (TARP Supporter)
Paul (Foreign-Policy, Drug-Legalising Nutjob)
Pawlenty (may actually gain more traction because the others just suck, and he’s the one guy who admitted his mistake on cap-and-trade and seems sincere. Yet, he’s kind of boring and hasn’t attracted the ground-swell)
Daniels (says he can’t debate Obama on Foreign Policy, wtf?)
Santorum (No)
Bachmann (I like her best. It’s okay she didn’t know where Lexington and Concord is if we got a POTUS that thinks there’s 57 states)
Johnson (another Paul whack-job. Look for him to run to the Libertarian convention when he doesn’t get the GOP nomination)

People I would like to see run:
Paul Ryan (actually has ideas and should have a bone to pick with Obama after the latter tried to embarrass him at the WH)
Marco Rubio (Absolute best)
Bobby Jindal (in the waits for 2016 assuming Obama is reelected? WTF Bobby, its time to jump in NOW, there won’t be a country in 2016)

My best guess is if the field above remains the same, its a Romney/Pawlenty nomination to lose.


100 posted on 05/14/2011 11:18:44 AM PDT by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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