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Herman Cain On FOX Sunday With Chris Wallace
FreeRepublic ^ | Monday, May 23, 2011 | Gargantua

Posted on 05/23/2011 6:30:49 AM PDT by Gargantua

While it is clear from the outset that a large percentage of lurkers and posters on FreeRepublic are staunch supporters of Sarah Palin, there are nonetheless a significant if considerably smaller number who avidly support Herman Cain. My curiosity piqued by this fact, I decided to watch Herman in his interview yesterday on “2012 One-on-One” with Chris Wallace, FOX NEWS Sunday.

As the show opened, Chris ran a videotape of Herman at a campaign stop where he commandeered the stage with an undeniable presence, arms spread expansively, and said “Once I am president, Americans will be able to say, “Free at last, free at last; thank God Almighty we are once again free at last.”' Truly powerful stuff.

Wallace went on to query Cain in some detail about what he referred to as “The Cain Doctrine.” Chris first asked him, “Free from what?” I won't waste time by reciting a verbatim transcript of the back-and-forth between them, but I have supplied a link < http://video.foxnews.com/v/954878611001/ > which I encourage you to use to verify what I am reporting here. Cain listed those things from which Americans can expect to be freed by electing him president, and then he enumerated in detail the steps he would take as president to deliver us.

Wallace then “drilled deep,” asking pointed questions about the specific facets Cain had laid out, and brought up the fact that many of these suggestions Cain had listed, in fact, would not work given the current economic situation. Cain, in a surprise move, agreed, saying, “If they (Republicans) had seen these things coming, and done what I am suggesting a year ago, it could have worked. But no, it will not work now.”

Cain laid out his point-by-point plan for fixing America's problems, then admitted that the plan would not, could not work. I'm as stunned as I have ever been.

I understand how incongruous, unlikely, and absolutely contradictory this sounds. I implore you, go to the link I have provided and watch what I watched. It is astounding. At two minutes and 30 seconds into this 13 minute vid, just look at the expression on Herman's face as Wallace questions him. He looks like a student trying to come up with an excuse for why he hadn't read the chapter assigned to him the day before.

That said, please ignore the characterizations and opinions here, and watch the video. For any candidate to lay out in detail a plan for America's success, citing it as the reason why we all should vote for him, and then immediately follow up by admitting that his plan cannot work is pretty much the beginning and the end of his campaign. I understand the desire to field a Republican candidate who is a person of color, since that would remove from their quiver the Democrats’ predictable arrows and accusations of racism.

But just as my heart sank when Lt. Col. Allen West stated with finality that he would not be seeking the presidency in 2012, I realized that Herman Cain, whether or not he is capable of winning the primary (and given what we see here, that remains a very serious question), quite simply is not the one we need or should want leading this nation from the White House. There are times when he does say all the right things, and I do not question that his heart is in the right place. Well-written speeches and good intentions alone do not a great leader make. America needs a great leader.

It would be very easy, and I even fully expect, for many of Cain's most staunch supporters here on FreeRepublic to simply accuse me of having an agenda or to state factually that my allegiances lay elsewhere. While I do indeed have an agenda, and while it is true that I prefer another for the White House in 2012, those facts do not dismiss, explain, or forgive the unbridgeable gap between the promises held in Herman rhetoric and his own admission that his plan will never deliver them.

America needs a great leader, and that leader is not Herman Cain.


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If Cain "had the goods," it wouldn't matter to me if he got elected. Saved is saved. That is the point, and it's the only point. We need someone with a vision and a plan for bringing America back from the edge.

Herman is a great guy. He just doesn't have it. Not even close.

1 posted on 05/23/2011 6:30:53 AM PDT by Gargantua
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To: Gargantua

Total idiocy. Cain is the ONLY candidate with the courage and intellectual honesty to not give a focus group tested sound bite answer to complex serious issues.

Apparently the way the RINO Media Establishment defines it a “Great leader” is a plastic phoney who gives absurd non answer when asked tough questions


2 posted on 05/23/2011 6:38:07 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: Gargantua

Good information, thanks for posting. As a general premise, I’m with you: we so badly want somebody to carry the guidon that we are tempted to overlook the requirement that the candidate actually be able to do the job. There might be a great place for Cain in someone’s cabinet, but I’m not comfortable he’s got the goods YET.

Colonel, USAFR


3 posted on 05/23/2011 6:38:16 AM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: Gargantua

Cain did very well on Fox News Sunday. He was very effective on the Israel question by the way. Cain stated the Palestinians would get “absolutely nothing” from a Cain Presidency. That was music to my ears! Cain will also leave the decisionmaking and negotiating to Israel. He couldn’t have said that any better.

Also, I love how Cain is scaring up all the Liberal Republicans on Free Republic into a frenzy!


4 posted on 05/23/2011 6:39:09 AM PDT by o2bfree
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To: Gargantua

My heart sank to my boots, guys. But Cain is honest, he just needs to come up with ideas to get us back on the right track, ideas that will work in the present circumstances. Whether he gets the nomination or not — lay that aside. We are so lucky this man stepped forward. He’s terrific. A lion. Think of the smearing he’ll take from the MSM, the toll it will take on his family and friends. It’s really horrible even to contemplate, but we know the left and Obama will let nothing stand in their way to destroy him. (i.e. Justice Thomas.)Well, whoever gets the nod will get the same treatment. Sigh. They’re desperately trying to dig up dirt on Christie.


5 posted on 05/23/2011 6:40:31 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Gargantua

I like him alot also but he needs to prep better. He also got tripped up on Wallace’s question regarding “the right of return” for the Pali’s. He either had a brain fart or he wasnt familiar with the phrase and it’s meaning.


6 posted on 05/23/2011 6:41:20 AM PDT by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: Gargantua
Here is a notion.

How about supposed “Conservatives” around here drop the scum bag Alinsky tactics and try telling us why we should support their chosen candidate rather then spending all their time trashing the other candidates.

7 posted on 05/23/2011 6:41:36 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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so, a single interview is now the entire basis for evaluating a candidate. Cool. I guess we can eliminate everyone who hasn’t answered every question perfectly. This includes every human on earth including the previous 42 men who held the office. I guess we need someone no less than Jesus himself to run in 2012.


8 posted on 05/23/2011 6:42:28 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Gargantua

And I suppose Saint Sarah does?


9 posted on 05/23/2011 6:43:13 AM PDT by RockinRight (Cain/Bolton - the perfect ticket for America's future.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Please watch the video, listen to Herman in his own words, and then explain to me how he can be your choice. Explain how you get from his promises to his delivering on them when he admits on National TV that he can't.

I agree with you, however, about the "total idiocy" part.

;-\

10 posted on 05/23/2011 6:43:31 AM PDT by Gargantua (Palin 2012 ~ "Going Oval" ©2010 by Gargantua)
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Herman is a great guy. He just doesn't have it. Not even close.

He's smart enough to surround himself with people who would, unlike the current one who surrounds us with people who would drive us further down the road to ruin or other candidates who would surround themselves with career politicians. Which would you prefer?

11 posted on 05/23/2011 6:43:35 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Gargantua

> Herman is a great guy. He just doesn’t have it. Not even close.

I’m gonna let you in on a little secret.

Nobody has the plan to bring America back from the edge, because we’ve already fallen over. It’s pathetic that so few of us realize it yet.

Get right with God. Get your personal affairs in order as best as you can. America is in free fall, and we’re about to hit the bottom. Total collapse is imminent.

Wish I had better news, but that’s how I see it at this point.

Now, there may be a visionary and a leader out there that can lead us up out of the abyss, but I think we’re going to fall first.


12 posted on 05/23/2011 6:44:25 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Gargantua
Overall, I think Cain did well. He certainly presents an outside-the-Beltway view of how the world should and does work.

He did kind of slip up when Wallace asked him about the "Right of Return" thing.

Cain froze as if he didn't know what the phrase meant. In his defense, I doubt if most Americans know what the phrase means. It's just one of those things that enter the lexicon that everybody assumes everybody else understands.

Once he caught on, he pretty much knocked it out of the park. It's up to Israel to decide how to handle the issue.

Which I still don't quite understand. I guess its akin to the controversy that was stirred up when West Germans tried to reclaim property that East Germans were living on after The Walll came down.

I think. A little help?

13 posted on 05/23/2011 6:45:12 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Gargantua
factually that my allegiances lay elsewhere

When you try to hide your true allegiences by posting a lie, you lose the argument.

How about you try telling us why we should support Sarah rather then wasting our time trashing everyone else?

Dan Rather Warns Chris Matthews: Bachmann Is For Real Sunday, May 22, 2011 9:12:19 PM · 47 of 69 Gargantua to org.whodat

Ping you? You're much better off being ignored. If you're not trashing Palin, you're looking for a thread where you can. Trash in, trash out. ;^|

Dan Rather Warns Chris Matthews: Bachmann Is For Real Sunday, May 22, 2011 7:52:40 PM · 15 of 69

Gargantua to CharlyFord

There's only one reason why the Liberotten Misleadia would get behind, or express enthusiasm for, any GOP candidate. If they hoped that their focus on that person would help keep Sarah Palin from sweeping the nomination

14 posted on 05/23/2011 6:46:39 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: Gargantua

Since you’re using Socialist tactics when posting about Cain, a conservative, I will assume for the moment you are a liberal.

Which Liberal Republican candidate for President do you support, Gargantua?


15 posted on 05/23/2011 6:46:49 AM PDT by o2bfree
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To: MNJohnnie
Posting a link to a video and asking folks to watch it, that's "Alinsky" now? Seems to me you have a horse in this race, and it's wearing blinders, Johnnie-me-boy.

;^\

16 posted on 05/23/2011 6:47:45 AM PDT by Gargantua (Palin 2012 ~ "Going Oval" ©2010 by Gargantua)
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To: Gargantua
I hope Conservatives won't, yet again, lose the race by demanding 100% perfection from THEIR candidates while Liberals sweep themselves into the WH with their radical populist incumbent, no matter how hopelessly and fatally flawed he has demonstrated himself to be.
17 posted on 05/23/2011 6:48:56 AM PDT by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: Gargantua
Your posting history betrays you.

Rather then continue to lie to us, why don't you try making an argument FOR Palin rather the trash talking the other choices?

18 posted on 05/23/2011 6:49:40 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: Westbrook
First you say we've already fallen off the cliff, then you say: "...but I think we’re going to fall first."

Which is it? It can't be both.

19 posted on 05/23/2011 6:50:23 AM PDT by Gargantua (Palin 2012 ~ "Going Oval" ©2010 by Gargantua)
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To: o2bfree
Yeah, and he looked nice, and did you see that tie he was weraing ? What a presidential tie, huh?! Golly!!

;-\

20 posted on 05/23/2011 6:52:04 AM PDT by Gargantua (Palin 2012 ~ "Going Oval" ©2010 by Gargantua)
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