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To: LadyDoc; colorado tanker; SunkenCiv; All

As mentioned in my previous answer, the societies you mention were well after this process had already begun around 4,000 BC I have not read any female archeologists who say there once was a heaven which evil men ruined. What they do say is that relations between the sexes appear to have been egalitarian and cooperative as opposed to dominant and submissive. So am I to take it you prefer a society where, if a female, you have to be dominated and be submissive. Been there, done that, got away from it, don’t plan to do it again.

As to proofs, as you point out women in Crete seemed to have an important position before the society collapsed around 1500 BC. They were protected by their ships from the major invasions. When many of the ships were probably destroyed by a Sontorini tsunami, as well as the shoreline infrastructure to build and repair them, Crete became vulnerable to invaders. In central Europe before 4,000 BC, the communities lacked fortifications, indicating a peaceful society. As more DNA studies are made we will know if burials indicate that men went to live with the woman’s family (matrilocal and possibly matrilineal) or the women went to the man’s family (patrilocal/patrilineal). I too look forward to the day that Linear A is readable


13 posted on 08/08/2011 5:39:10 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin; SunkenCiv
See Civ's post above.

I have never believed in the evil patriarchy theory, either, which is also pushed by feminists. It's fine with me if a society is organized as a matriarchy. It is just that most societies have been organized around the idea of the bigger and stronger man being head of the family. The farther back one goes in time the more this seems to be the case because of the importance of physical strength in protecting and providing for a family.

So far as I know no prehistoric matriarchal society has been identified. The presence of widespread worship of a female deity or deities does not establish a matriarchal society, IMHO. Also, in the neolithic societies discovered in remote areas in the 19th and 20th centuries, no matriarchies were found. A number of primitive societies are matrilineal, but not matriarchal.

Unlike the feminists, I think men and women have lived together agreeably regardless of who is in charge, especially in the West.

15 posted on 08/08/2011 6:16:37 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: gleeaikin

no female archeologist claims the great mother goddess...it is a myth of the women’s studies nincompoops.


17 posted on 08/10/2011 12:38:26 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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