http://www.gunblast.com/Remington-700VTR.htm
Posted on 12/17/2011 9:34:30 AM PST by rabidralph
I am looking to buy a rifle that would serve two purposes: primarily a long-distance shooter and secondarily a larger game taker downer :-)
I like to shoot beyond 600 yards and I want a rifle to suit that purpose. From info I've gathered, I should get a larger-calibered rifle, with at least a 24" barrel. I would like to keep the rifle below 10lbs because I also want to hunt with it some day. I am interested in hunting elk and moose, eventually. So I am thinking of a .308.
Try looking here. The guy has a good reputation.
http://macsgunworks.com/default.aspx
The .375 H&H—depending on the bullet used you can drop a small deer with little damage or kill dead an elephant before it hits the ground.
Not exactly a sniper weapon but maybe the best “all round” game rifle on any continent.
I agree on limiting range with ultralight rifle. I hunt in forested areas not subject to longer ranges. In target shooting the ultralight barrel heats up very fast after a few shots, but for my use its perfect on normally one shot kills.
Good points on long barrels, although noting that the Mil Sniper models seem to have somewhat long barrels, also undersatnding that a true sniper rifle will have the most precise machine work and bedding which should reduce the long barrel “play” you mentioned.
Agreed. I use the 140gr in a 6.5x55 and the 200gr in a .300 H&H.
http://www.gunblast.com/Remington-700VTR.htm
My friend has an M1A that he absolutely loves! This is him posing with it. They are beautiful rifles, no matter what the furniture. I would not turn my nose up at the M1A :-) Thanks for the animal-to-caliber comparison.
For Brown Bear, I favor controlled expansion myself. I prefer the Barnes 350 Gr. RN/FB. (Soft core, 50 thousanths pure copper jacket.) They retain over 95% mass even in full body penetrations. What is more impressive though, is their ability to break bone structure on dangerous game.
Actually, 600 yards is when the snipers begin to utilize the ballistic advantage of long distance shooting. The 600 yard zero is standard.
Heck, my wife uses iron sights with her M1A1 and places holes in the X ring at 600 yards, my eyes being a tad weak, i've went to glass for same.
When we go to depredate the local coyotes, unless we use a call, we don't see them very close in the open fields, but we know where the marker stakes are.
I do agree closer is better for the larger animal if using .308.
But if the round used will deliver the energy and transfer it, and the shooter is capable, the distance is really not consequential. Well, other than you must then go fetch the game that far away and back again!
I did not mean to mislead anyone in comparing a sporter barrel to a military grade sniper rifle. Since most military barrels are chromed and use a completely different kind of stability medium. Sporter riflings are extremely damaging to bullet flight and there is no comparison.
You know your stuff for sure.
[Actually, 600 yards is when the snipers begin to utilize the ballistic advantage of long distance shooting. The 600 yard zero is standard.]
You have that right! 600 is like Fish in a barrel, barndoor close for most trained Army Snipers. That is where we begin!
Funny stuff. I’m still chucklin’.
Who or what is that?
He got up before sunrise and into his hide, then waited all day until the sun was at his back, then scoped the glint off the other sniper's glass, and put a hole in it.
I think that story has been proven false tho the Russian sniper was real and really did kill a lot of Germans.
7.62x? Thanks for the recommendation. I’ve noticed that the various offerings are fairly inexpensive. Do you recommend one in particular?
Wow! I will keep that in mind.
LOL! Well stated! This thread is well on its way!
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