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To: nathanbedford

It wasn’t the message. It was the messenger.


4 posted on 11/11/2012 1:57:46 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Yep. There is a reason that Romney/Ryan got 3 million less votes than McCain/Palin.


5 posted on 11/11/2012 2:06:57 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: Jim Robinson; pepsionice
Gentlemen:

More than any one I want to believe that it is the messenger and not the message, that conservative virtue if given the right messenger will triumph.

But I want to know beyond all paraventure of doubt that the next time we go to the electorate we have the right combination of message and messenger and I do not want to rely on my own feel-good reactions made while shellshocked.

Similarly, I would not venture an opinion on whether Paul Ryan helped or hurt the ticket because I do not know, I have not seen any data. While it is reasonably clear that we have to do something about the Hispanic vote, how do we know that the solution is to cave on the dream act? Further, how do we know that Marco Rubio will make a difference? Can we just trot out an Hispanic and expect a whole demographic to flip? Besides, how much influence does a Cuban American have with Mexican-Americans?

My point is we do not know and one opinion is about as valuable as the next. We proceed on the basis of what makes us feel good at our peril.


6 posted on 11/11/2012 2:08:35 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, I hate to disagree with you.

But it was the message: it never got spread.

(During the debates, Romney emphasized the role of small business in reviving the economy, but nobody helped him in picking up on it and spreading it. Nobody articulated what was wrong with paying for Fluke's contraception / abortifacents, letting the meme spread that Republicans don't care about womyn. And Romney positively colluded with the left -- or he cowered like a true RINO in the face of lardass Candy Crowley -- about Benghazi.)

Hmmm, come to think of it, if the messenger doesn't get around to spreading the message, maybe it *is* the messenger. ;-)

Cheers!

50 posted on 11/11/2012 5:54:18 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bad messenger with no message. Mitt the flipper was amazingly not any more believable than Obama. When do we get to hang the GOP-E crowd from the lanyard?


74 posted on 11/11/2012 7:08:03 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Jim Robinson
It wasn’t the message. It was the messenger.

I think it's the message. People these days don't like that you should work to get yours. They know you can just vote in people who will give it to you. Sad.

82 posted on 11/11/2012 7:46:49 AM PST by smith288 (Peace at all costs gives you tyranny free of charge)
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To: Jim Robinson

Amen!


88 posted on 11/11/2012 9:12:20 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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