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Welcome to the new web site of Microbiology and Immunology On-line from the Department of Pathology, Microbiology and Immunology at the University of South Carolina School of Medicine

IMMUNOLOGY - CHAPTER TWO COMPLEMENT

1 posted on 12/06/2012 9:07:54 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem; Morgana

NNNNNNnnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooo thanks

but probably very popular as a food in Indochina. lol.


2 posted on 12/06/2012 9:11:10 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: neverdem

Here’s the problem: they make me scream and flail about in panic. I’d have to be very heavily sedated.


3 posted on 12/06/2012 9:11:30 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Great nations are born stoic and die epicurean. -Will Durant)
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To: neverdem

My US Army Survival Guide from way back when lists maggot therapy as a useful method to cleanse a wound of dead flesh.


4 posted on 12/06/2012 9:15:03 PM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: neverdem

Wonder if that could also lead to better treatments for autoimmune disorders?


5 posted on 12/06/2012 9:15:10 PM PST by Ellendra (http://www.ustrendy.com/ellendra-nauriel/portfolio/18423/concealed-couture/)
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To: neverdem

Ok, so I’m out somewhere and wounded.

Where would I find these helpful maggots?

Especially in winter?

“Enquiring minds want to know......”


9 posted on 12/06/2012 9:22:26 PM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: neverdem

Oh MAGGOTS! I thought they said faggots.


11 posted on 12/06/2012 9:25:36 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio)
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To: neverdem

I remember reading the tale of some mountain man, after being mauled by a bear and abandoned by his comrades, treating his wounds with maggots or some other kind of larvae. He found an old rotting log and flipped it over, rolling in the grubs underneath it to keep his wounds from becoming infected. It apparently worked, because the guy survived and made it back to civilization to get his revenge.


19 posted on 12/06/2012 9:42:17 PM PST by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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To: neverdem

Gwendolyn Cazander “It’s not surprising that maggot secretions would suppress the immune system. Otherwise, the larvae would probably be attacked by the body.

Hmmmm, sure. Gota wonder just how that could work. Living munchers being attacked by dead munchables. Buzzard spit Gwen.

Rab can but wonder. Thanks for the post neverdem.


20 posted on 12/06/2012 9:44:36 PM PST by Rabin
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To: neverdem

Maybe the lib-dem maggots will clean
the national wound that is “conservative”
Gop.


26 posted on 12/06/2012 10:40:07 PM PST by WKTimpco (Traditional Values Counter Revolution)
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To: therut; ccmay; Kozak; Jim Noble; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; ...
Comment# 1 on this maggot thread links the "new web site of Microbiology and Immunology On-line from the Department of Pathology, Microbiology and Immunology at the University of South Carolina School of Medicine." You might want to save that. That's why I pinged therut, ccmay, Kozak and Jim Noble. I also linked their section on the complement system.

New type of bacterial protection found within cells

FReepmail me if you want on or off my combined microbiology/immunology ping list.

Happy Chanukah, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

27 posted on 12/06/2012 10:44:31 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

I just realized...my face is all scrunched up.


46 posted on 12/07/2012 4:15:17 AM PST by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: humblegunner

Ping for why you don’t need a doctor...


49 posted on 12/07/2012 5:31:32 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: neverdem

The little fat white worms under rotting logs are known as grubs - not maggots. I think they are beetle larvae. Bears and Bear Gryls like to eat them.


50 posted on 12/07/2012 5:40:18 AM PST by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: neverdem

There were some very important medical discoveries during the US Civil War.

One was that quartering wounded in horse stables could often achieve a 100% mortality rate. So “don’t do that”.

The other was the growing consensus for decades that antiseptics, alcohol and carbolic acid, were of great help in preventing infection, though this was only formalized just after the Civil War by Joseph Lister in Britain.

However, much evidence in the Civil War seemed to indicate just the opposite. This was because even though Union Army wounded generally had much better sanitation, clean bandages, and medicinal alcohol, their mortality rate was *higher* than for wounded rebel soldiers whose wounds were often infested with maggots.

This was because many of the battlefield wounds had been contaminated with soil rich in the anaerobic bacteria that caused the various kinds of gangrene. When buried deeply in the flesh, such bacteria were protected from antiseptics, but not maggots, that would burrow down, but only eat dead flesh, not living flesh.

For those grossed out by maggots, let me assure you that the smell of gangrene is so unique, powerful, and awful, that it is far worse than mere maggots. On the rare occasion when someone in the US gets gangrene today, it is said that “If they are put in a room on the third floor, the smell two floors away will be almost intolerable.”

It is such a rarity that physicians will come from far away just to smell that smell, so they can recognize it immediately if they ever smell it again. No one ever forgets what it smells like.


51 posted on 12/07/2012 5:42:44 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: neverdem

Maggot can also do surgery.

67 posted on 12/07/2012 7:56:53 AM PST by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: neverdem

Why do I always click on these threads when I sit down for lunch?


82 posted on 12/07/2012 10:56:36 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: neverdem

Bet those young men that had DI’s calling them “Maggots” never realized they may one day be really valuable.


87 posted on 12/07/2012 2:08:26 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: neverdem

My Gram, who’s family was from Canada, told me that when she was a girl (1920 or so) her Uncle came down with a bad sickness. It was the middle of winter. Her other Uncles cut a hole in the ice of their pond and went in for leeches to put on her sick Uncle. He ended up dying.


91 posted on 12/07/2012 3:52:55 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: neverdem

92 posted on 12/07/2012 4:02:11 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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