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Pete Rose erased from baseball cards - Has Topps gone too far?
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Posted on 02/13/2013 6:42:56 PM PST by SMGFan

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To: SMGFan

Good God! All the man did was gamble, it’s not like he murdered anybody.

TOPPS, MLB, need to get a life.


21 posted on 02/13/2013 7:48:57 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: yarddog
Agree. The whole "culture" of betting/gambling is anathema to the game of baseball, but still not as egregious and dishonest as "cheating" by "doping", etc...

Love him or hate him, Rose earned his on-field credentials honestly, as far as I've ever heard, and simply being made to disappear from the record books (and the Topps cards) is just ridiculous, IMHO! Hall of Fame is a different story, of course...rules is rules, I reckon.

22 posted on 02/13/2013 7:55:35 PM PST by 88keys (where are the real Americans?!)
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To: SMGFan

Well I hope for his sake he gets in to the HOF. Everytime I am in Vegas he is doing autograph sessions at either Caesars or like 20 minutes ago when I waved at him at Mandalay Bay. He was by himself and did not look happy at all.


23 posted on 02/13/2013 8:01:31 PM PST by Cyman
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To: SMGFan
Its not like he owned a pitbull fighting ring.

You would think he punched Rihanna or something.

Sad state of affairs when you can't bet on your own team to win !

24 posted on 02/13/2013 8:17:50 PM PST by Newbomb Turk ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.")
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To: yarddog
Still Rose never bet against his own team and he always gave it all he had.

And we have his word on that....

25 posted on 02/13/2013 8:28:41 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: yarddog; Cyber Liberty
Ahem....from 2007 on ESPN.com...

Rose spoke Wednesday with Dan Patrick and Keith Olbermann on ESPN Radio to discuss the new Pete Rose exhibit that will be on display at the Great American Ballpark as part of the Reds Hall of Fame. The exhibit will be on display for 11 months.

"I bet on my team every night. I didn't bet on my team four nights a week. I was wrong," Rose said.

Rose said that he believed in his team so much that he bet on them to win every night.

"I bet on my team to win every night because I love my team, I believe in my team," Rose said. "I did everything in my power every night to win that game."

26 posted on 02/13/2013 8:47:51 PM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: SMGFan

Exactly. Something stupid that he did as a coach should not erase his records as a player. The fact that the hall of fame will never touch him and his caricature of a public image is punishment enough.


27 posted on 02/13/2013 8:48:33 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: edpc

Whew! I’m glad that’s settled....


28 posted on 02/13/2013 8:50:03 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

And his cards will be worth big money. He will be folk lore.


29 posted on 02/13/2013 8:52:23 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Rose is a very special POS.

That said, his records are legit and should be recognized. I don't have an issue with him being in the HOF posthumously. While he's alive, however, he should be banned from official MLB activities IMHO.

30 posted on 02/13/2013 8:56:01 PM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: edpc

Seems reasonable.


31 posted on 02/13/2013 9:00:52 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: EveningStar
Cut the sanctimonious bullshit and put him there.

I've got to respectfully disagree there. Pete Rose is sort of like the Benedict Arnold of baseball. Like Arnold, Rose did many good things, but then he went over to the dark side.

Arnold won great victories early in the Revolutionary war. But Arnold should not be on an American coin. Rose should not be in the Hall of Fame.

32 posted on 02/13/2013 9:07:22 PM PST by Leaning Right
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To: SMGFan

For crying out loud, he bet on baseball, he didn’t bugger the commissioner’s pet goat.

Leave him alone, he’s paid enough.


33 posted on 02/13/2013 9:41:35 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Keen-Minded
Baseball should reinstate Rose because they haven't banned the steroid users. He did not damage the sport the way they have when it comes to records.

Totally agree!

34 posted on 02/13/2013 9:48:38 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
"Still Rose never bet against his own team and he always gave it all he had. And we have his word on that.... "

Pete was such a hero to me growing up. But the guy simply can't stop lying.

Don't forget he AGREED to the lifetime ban. He signed the papers with Giamatti.

First it was I never bet on baseball, then it was I bet on the Reds to win most of the time (except when he knew a starting pitcher wasn't up to snuff), then it was I bet on the Reds to win every game (foolish strategy BTW).

I'm at the point where I truly don't believe anything he says.

I really would not be that surprised if he bet against the Reds on occasion, just to cover his substantial losses.

Anyone who knows a patholgical gambling addict knows that there is virtually nothing they won't do.

Oh, I know he's sorry. But I think it's because got caught.

35 posted on 02/13/2013 11:07:35 PM PST by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: The Cajun

Free Republic is a Conservative website. We espouse morality, respect for the law, contracts, loyalty, not consorting with organized crime, not using and/or pushing illegal drugs, not fixing sports events, not gambling against your employer, management, players and other people that you supervise, not threatened those people, etc.
MLB’s investigation linked Rose and his drug-dealing, bookmaking, baseball gambling, race-fixing, steroids using/dealing, amphetamine using/dealing, income-tax fraud friends, many whom lived in Rose’s houses and hotel rooms.
MLB released some of the investigation but much more was not disclosed as per Rose’s contract with MLB, which threatened to turn the investigation to the government. There were a lot of people, very scary people, who urged Rose to take the deal.


36 posted on 02/13/2013 11:40:23 PM PST by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.)
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MLB released some of the investigation but much more was not disclosed as per Rose’s contract with MLB, which threatened to turn the investigation to the government. There were a lot of people, very scary people, who urged Rose to take the deal

And all of these undisclosed facts you know how???

There were a lot of people, very scary people, who urged Rose to take the deal.

And also this fact, you know how???

Note: They said, was rumored, unnamed sources are not adequate answers, btw.

Free Republic is a Conservative website.

Why thanks Captain Obvious!
I've been stumbling around here for 14 years and didn't realize that.

37 posted on 02/14/2013 1:02:52 AM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: dinoparty

Fans should decide by never supporting anything “Tops”


38 posted on 02/14/2013 6:12:58 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (...and to the Republic for which it STOOD...)
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To: namvolunteer
I didn't know that scary people urged Rose to take the deal. But sports gambling wasn't legal in Ohio in the '80s. He went through bookies.

I don't know if you know who runs the bookmaking business, but let me assure you, it ain't the Boy Scouts.

Rose associated with all KINDS of low-lifes during this time. He even met them in the clubhouse at Riverfront.

Read the book "Hustle".

Pete was very very stupid.

39 posted on 02/14/2013 1:55:33 PM PST by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: SMGFan
made the decision to scrub mentions of Pete Rose and his Major League Baseball records from their products.

Just makes his cards all the more valuable.......

40 posted on 02/14/2013 1:57:48 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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