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Reactionary? I think not. These people loved freedom...they were not trying to stop 'progressive thought.' Perhaps the headline writer was confused.
1 posted on 05/11/2013 8:47:49 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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Decades of abuses led to the revolution and our founders struggled to avoid a war that came to them anyway.

I’d hardly call that reactionary.


2 posted on 05/11/2013 8:50:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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Psssst. Scott Martelle and LA Times. Here's a message for ya:

Rupert Murdoch. Boo!


3 posted on 05/11/2013 8:50:29 AM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: indcons; Chani; thefactor; blam; aculeus; ELS; Doctor Raoul; mainepatsfan; timpad; ...

The RevWar/Colonial History/General Washington ping list...

4 posted on 05/11/2013 8:52:40 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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The Boston Tea Party was a reaction, but I think Britain’s response to the Tea Party made people seriously consider whether they really wanted to be under King George III.


6 posted on 05/11/2013 8:55:52 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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These days, all of Neo Europa, the North East, is loyalist. They have finally prevailed.


8 posted on 05/11/2013 8:57:07 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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"...and loyalists had been sometimes brutally suppressed throughout Massachusetts..."

Now the Rats have multiplied and overrun the place.

9 posted on 05/11/2013 8:57:24 AM PDT by Paladin2
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How can you write this many words and not mention SAM ADAMS ?


10 posted on 05/11/2013 8:58:34 AM PDT by gusopol3
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Reactionarism might be defined as wanting to turn the clock back. At that time, the British Government was taking steps to reform the relationship between the colonies and the Crown, whereas the colonists where fighting to retain hard won liberties from the struggles between Crown and people during The English Civil War and the Glorious Revolution of 1688. In that sense, I suppose you could call it a reactionary government that was making innovations leading to tyranny.


11 posted on 05/11/2013 8:59:29 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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I have heard of another theory that the Revolutionary War was actually a conservative. Before the French and Indian War (Seven Years War to the rest of the world) the colonies were largely left on their own. The had some taxes, but less that the typical British subject back in England. After that war the king and parliament started imposing more laws and taxes which got the colonists wanting to go back to the old ways. It gradually became clear that there was no way to return to that freedom and remain under the king, so the king had to go.

I wish I remembered the author who proposed that idea.

13 posted on 05/11/2013 9:00:07 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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All I got out of that was “Massholes have always been Massholes.”


14 posted on 05/11/2013 9:01:34 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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The American Revolution was obviously a counter-revolution, as any serious reading of the Declaration of Independence, as well as a review of the recent preceding history will establish.

Before you take exception, read Jefferson (with the assistance of Franklin & Adam's) actual words. He postulates the right of the action on the British Government's breach of the compact between the governed & the government. The settlers were resisting an aggression against their primal & previously enjoyed rights. (See Declaration Of Independence--With Study Guide.)

While the Left has always quoted passages of the Declaration out of context--the same technique they have used to distort the Constitution;--it cannot be understood except as a whole. It was carefully crafted to make a very different statement than that, which many of our contemporaries have been led to believe.

William Flax

18 posted on 05/11/2013 9:06:53 AM PDT by Ohioan
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#7 on the NYT best seller list. Not bad. People have always been curious of our own legends and myths as a nation.

I think a definite account of the War of Regulation would make a great impact on the people today. Especially in the times we live in. People seldom mention it today.

19 posted on 05/11/2013 9:09:16 AM PDT by Theoria
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Most of the American colonies were organized and administered as semi-private enterprises, not subject to the same onerous government as Britain, and were generally left to see to their own affairs. When the British government attempted to assert its authority through what were mild taxes and regulations by English standards, these actions struck colonists, who were used to being largely ignored by Whitehall in London, as tyrannical.


20 posted on 05/11/2013 9:09:24 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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"To say that a love of democratic ideals had inspired these country people to take up arms ..."

I would mention the love of "limited government" long before I would mention "democratic ideals". Ours was not a socialist revolution.

And there was nothing "reactionary" against disposing of a Monarch and government by an aristocratic class.

23 posted on 05/11/2013 9:17:24 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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This guy needs to read the Declaration Of Independence.


26 posted on 05/11/2013 9:23:16 AM PDT by onedoug
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No. It was a pressure cooker like we have today and something finally set it off, but the anger and emotions that drove the war were decades in the making, just like today.

I see today as Yosemite Sam in the bowels of the ship full of barrels of gun powder and he’s got a lit match; no one knows which barrel is going off first but we know one will.


29 posted on 05/11/2013 9:31:27 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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The Revolutionary War was profoundly conservative, but not reactionary.

I really despise the word “reactionary.”

Oh crap, I’m ranting again . . . /s


34 posted on 05/11/2013 9:55:23 AM PDT by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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Another scholar cherry picking facts to come up with new history that - surprise - diminishes the patriot movement. Except its no surprise - the same old crap has been coming out of academia for the past 100 years.

No where in his 'history' does he mention that at the crux of the revolutionaries complaint was that they were not treated by the crown as British subjects - at first that is what they demanded but once they had crossed the Rubicon militarily, so to speak, their motive evolved to total independence.

37 posted on 05/11/2013 10:06:41 AM PDT by skeeter
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Sure. "Reactionary" was the headline writer's word. Philbrick's description was "profoundly conservative" -- different ways of characterizing and framing the same reality.

Britain's attitude towards the colonies had been characterized by Edmund Burke as "a wise and salutary neglect." Under George III, British governments tried to change that to get the colonies to pay Britain for their own defense and for the war that had just been fought with the French and the Indians. So you could view Britain as the party who wanted to change things.

I wouldn't get hung up on the idea of one side or the other being the modern-day progressives. Too much has changed since the 18th century for us to slap 21st century labels on the political positions of that era. But a phrase like "to the right of Louis XIV" doesn't make much sense. Absolute monarchy was a new idea. Absolute monarchs wanted to change things -- and did.

Thinking that, say, if the Stuart monarchs had won their battles with Parliament nothing would have changed since the 1700s doesn't really add up. More or less absolute monarchy did win in France and forces for change lined up behind it -- until they no longer did and backed revolution. Something similar might have happened in Britain, had James II or his son or grandson have been victorious. Of course there are counter-examples, times and places where change did slow down or stop, like Spain in the same period, but one shouldn't assume that if things in the past had happened differently conditions would have frozen history as they was then.

40 posted on 05/11/2013 10:33:18 AM PDT by x
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My gggg Grandfather, his son and 5 other cousins & Prescott who ["grabbed his musket off the wall, kissed her [his wife]goodbye & ran out the door"], rushed to Breed`s Hill [Bunker Hill] so they could "blast the British." [Family tradition.] My gggg grandfather was 70 years old when he shot the British. His son was bayoneted as he was on the ground wounded and he summarily shot and killed the bastard British. He died 2 months later from the bayonet wound puncturing his lung.

Hatred of the British is the reason.

No "reaction" at all, just pure Redcoat hate and love of country.

41 posted on 05/11/2013 10:38:08 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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