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To: imardmd1

“I have never been able to help anyone who is not willing to follow Scriptural commands rather than Dave:

“Owe no man nothing, no not anything at all, except to love one another.” (A rather precise rendering of Romans 13:8)”

Had you done anything other than to judge Dave based on the ONE article, then you would realize that you have simply restated nearly his entire ministry with the above comment.

If you are attempting to be a witness to me, and other FReepers, this approach is not very effective.


21 posted on 05/16/2013 6:07:26 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: CSM
Had you done anything other than to judge Dave based on the ONE article, then you would realize that you have simply restated nearly his entire ministry with the above comment.

I guess I failed to make my point clear: I do not believe, from this article, that Dave's solutions addressed the root problems.

Tanya's problem was yearning to exchange masters -- because one cannot serve two.
Andy's problem was failing to teach himself or his sons to make one's own life decisions, because of lack of guidance from guidance by the Holy Spirit.
Dave's problem is holding himself forth as a life counselor (usurping the role of the local church) rather than as a qualified public accountant (apparently his singular strength).

Any hints here for the problems you might be experiencing? (rhetorical, no answer needed)

When Jesus healed, his ministry addressed the whole person (spiritual, medical, material), almost always tracing back to spiritual error or ignorance. As I said, if your only tool is a hammer ... time to get the right tools for the job, eh? Romans 13:8 is not the answer to every problem.

If you are attempting to be a witness to me, and other FReepers, this approach is not very effective.

I already stated who my "ministry" can touch. For many, it will not. The Master's tough love is often rejected when one has a choice. I know -- have gone to the woodshed with my Heavenly Father many times. My proper focus is a life witness to Him. You?

With best regards --

22 posted on 05/16/2013 9:17:22 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Come and hear, all ye that fear God, and I will declare what He has done for my soul. Ps 66:16)
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