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To: arthurus

I concur and believe there is something there. However, when people make statements such as: “They were fed by a TRIAC power regulator device which interrupted each phase periodically, in order to modulate power input with an industrial trade secret waveform. This procedure, needed to properly activate the E-Cat HT charge, had no bearing whatsoever on the power consumption of the device, which remained constant throughout the test”, in their independent tests it makes it difficult to believe everything else they are stating.

E=hf. Where E (energy), h (planck’s constant), and f (frequency). As f is the inverse of wavelength then the waveform does have a direct impact on the power consumption. That said if the power consumption is constant then it either 1) isn’t being measured to the precision or speed needed to see the fluctuation caused by the waveform and is being assumed constant, 2) they are wrong, or 3) averaged out it really has no impact (which if true is what they should have said - Pavg? or Prms?)

The remainder I thought was a good explanation of the setup though I didn’t spend a lot of time on it - this just screamed out at me.

If Rossi really wants to do this - he needs to patent the design in as many countries as he can to protect his investment and then release all the details for scientists to recreate from scratch without interference or the use of only his units.

Einstein’s theories weren’t supported by many until multiple scientists independently confirmed them. He can’t expect anything different. If he won’t release the details then either he’s a sham or killing his chance for real fame and fortune with his paranoia.


12 posted on 05/21/2013 8:45:50 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: reed13k
I do believe he has something. I believed Ponds and Fleishman. I'm sorry about the spelling mistake of these two great scientests. These were great and humble men who want only to give their discovery to the world.

E-Cat is not to be “given” to the world but “sold” to the world. It is hard to show something that is a secret and not give away the secret and I believe that is all that is going on. I have read too many reports from experimenters who suddenly had a great burst of energy that even exploded their apparatus. A new world order is about to take place because of Rossie and others like him.

14 posted on 05/21/2013 9:29:53 AM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: reed13k

That’s what I think and Rossi looks more like a huckster the longer he doesn’t act this way.


15 posted on 05/21/2013 9:30:01 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: reed13k

If Rossi really wants to do this - he needs to patent the design in as many countries
***Hard to do when the patent offices won’t grant a patent for it, like — ummm — here, in America.


17 posted on 05/21/2013 9:48:30 AM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: reed13k

“They were fed by a TRIAC power regulator device which interrupted each phase periodically, in order to modulate power input with an industrial trade secret waveform. This procedure, needed to properly activate the E-Cat HT charge, had NO BEARING WHATSOEVER on the power consumption of the device, which remained constant throughout the test.”

- Barack Obama


18 posted on 05/21/2013 9:53:51 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: reed13k
"“They were fed by a TRIAC power regulator device which interrupted each phase periodically, in order to modulate power input with an industrial trade secret waveform. This procedure, needed to properly activate the E-Cat HT charge, had no bearing whatsoever on the power consumption of the device, which remained constant throughout the test”, in their independent tests it makes it difficult to believe everything else they are stating."

Dude, they were measuring the electrical power going INTO the control box. What the box does to the wave-form is irrelevant. You can't get more power out of an electrical circuit than you put into it, no matter what the output waveform is.

33 posted on 05/21/2013 3:07:40 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: reed13k

The only thing that important about the trade secret waveforms generated by the SCR’s is they take the power factor of the unit outside the valid range 0.5-1.0 for the power meter used for the test

here is the manufacturer link note the power factor restrictions

http://www.industrial-needs.com/technical-data/power-anlayser-PCE-830.htm

Yes it’s SCR’s firing into large inductive coils and dragging the power factor to a really low value sending the meter into error <3

The physicists don’t understand electrical engineering it’s really basic what he is doing the LENR is just distraction.

This thing is a scam ... surely the having to keep it plugged into the mains makes you more than a little suspicious.

The LENR rubbish is a simple distraction the scam is in the electrical setup.


39 posted on 05/22/2013 8:22:45 AM PDT by LdB
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