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Gustave Whitehead holding a motor in front of his 1901 monoplane the Condor


1 posted on 06/07/2013 7:41:22 AM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

Democrats rewriting history......what’s new...


2 posted on 06/07/2013 7:42:16 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: JoeProBono

Well isn’t this just special.


3 posted on 06/07/2013 7:44:26 AM PDT by anoldafvet
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To: JoeProBono

Use to work with a New Zealander who swore the first powered flight was by a Kiwi in New Zealand.

I believe it was done by Miguelito Loveless and was steam powered.


4 posted on 06/07/2013 7:44:52 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: JoeProBono
Got proof?


5 posted on 06/07/2013 7:45:02 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: JoeProBono

Just getting off the ground was not proof of flight. A strong wind could do that.

Sustained, three-axis controlled flight without the help of winds or gravity is the criteria for true flight.

Only the Wrights had developed controlled flight. The rest were no different than throwing a paper airplane across the room.


8 posted on 06/07/2013 7:48:46 AM PDT by oldbill
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Dayton, Ohio - 1903” : NEWMAN, RANDY

Sing a song of long ago
When things were green and movin’ slow
And people’d stop to say hello
Or they’d say “hi” to you
“Would you like to come over for tea
With the missus and me?”
It’s a real nice way
To spend the day
In Dayton, Ohio
On a lazy Sunday afternoon in 1903

Sing a song of long ago
When things could grow
And days flowed quietly
The air was clean and you could see
And folks were nice to you
“Would you like to come over for tea
With the missus and me?”
It’s a real nice way
To spend the day
In Dayton, Ohio
On a lazy Sunday afternoon in 1903


11 posted on 06/07/2013 7:50:07 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Design is evolutionary. Why do subsequent aircraft, such as the fighters of WW1 look like the Wrights’ plane and not Whitehead’s? Answer: Whitehead’s did not fly as advertised.


13 posted on 06/07/2013 7:50:37 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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A “first” is useless if no one knows about it and nothing comes of it. The Wright Bros. capitalized on their flight and helped make aviation viable and started making planes for other people. These other guys who were allegedly first are just footnotes in history. It’s like the debate on who “discovered” America. The Vikings got to America first, but nothing came of it and no one knew about it. After Columbus, America became “the New World”; so I always consider Columbus the true discoverer just as I consider the Wrights “first in flight”.


19 posted on 06/07/2013 7:54:21 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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‘Must’ve been gay.


20 posted on 06/07/2013 7:58:41 AM PDT by onedoug
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Is there any way they can make him a gay black man so they can claim even more changes to history and their tolerance and acceptance?


22 posted on 06/07/2013 8:03:03 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Liberals chant that ID for voting is racist, so isn't ID for purchasing a gun racist?)
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To: JoeProBono

So, Connecticut is calling Wilbur and Orville the Wrong Brothers.


25 posted on 06/07/2013 8:07:31 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (July 4, 1776: Declaration of Independence. Nov 6, 2012: Declaration Uof Dependence. R.I.P. America.)
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Democrats are re righting history because of who Oliver and Wilbur Wright were , what they believed and what inspired them to persist in their endevor.

They were Christians and their inspiration for flight came from a passage in the Bible .

Isaiah 40:31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.

27 posted on 06/07/2013 8:07:50 AM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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All based on a second hand report in a small Connecticut newspaper. Even if it was true, Gustave had a couple years to file a patent and become the most famous inventor this side of Thomas Edison. He didn't and never took Wilbur and Orville to court over theirs (they did successfully sue Glenn Curtiss over his company's infringement). Besides, the machine he supposedly flew did not produce controlled flight, unless one calls having the pilot shift his a** left or right to bank and turn constitutes "control".


28 posted on 06/07/2013 8:08:29 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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I think the Wrights had the first powered and CONTROLLED flight. I’ve heard of a couple of others prior to theirs powered, but not controlled.


35 posted on 06/07/2013 8:14:06 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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This has been in the works for decades.

And it is more of an angle to increase tourism in Connecticut than a deliberate revision of history.

The evidence is weak. And so is this tourism ploy.


41 posted on 06/07/2013 8:31:47 AM PDT by kidd
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To: JoeProBono
Actually, it was this dude.


45 posted on 06/07/2013 9:21:58 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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I am not terribly surprised that Gus Whitehead came up with a powered aircraft before the Wright brothers, but within just a few years of when they did it. Many people were working on the problem of powered flight at the time and, with the right combination of factors, powered flight could have been a reality in the late-19th, instead of the early-20th century. While I am very confident that the airplane would have eventually been created without the Wright Brothers, the Wrights gave the world powered flight of heavier-than-air machines sooner and better than anyone else, thanks to research, engineering, and excellent self-promotion. All three of the just-mentioned elements were needed for the Wright brothers to get credit; just one or two elements would not have sufficed. That’s why we know much more about Thomas Edison than the equally-brilliant Nikola Tesla in the realm of electrical power production.


47 posted on 06/07/2013 9:51:24 AM PDT by Trentamj
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