[Pharmboy]

Quote: "Ellis’s book is not wrong; it’s just incomplete and superficial. Even as he explodes the notion that volunteers won the war, he underscores an equally pervasive idea that the actions of Congress and the American Revolution were one and the same."

[Pharmboy]

Book review ping to the list...Happy Fourth coming up!

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For those who would rather not read multiple volumes to get at the RevWar issues, Ellis offers a reasonable alternative. He brings things together, is an accomplished writer and is very enthusiastic about the subject. Although I have nor read this book, the reviewer seems down on Ellis because he is not multi-culti enough for his tastes. Further, the reviewer once again repeats the canard that the General sent Sullivan to upstate NY to preemptively attack the Iroquois; nonsense. Most of the Iroquois nations (all but the Oneidas) had already begun attacking the Patriots.

There are few things worse than leftist historians.

[Jacquerie]

In an old Dudley Pope book about Nelson's Royal Navy, he described in some detail the enormous expense involved in building, fitting out, and manning a frigate.

I know the vast majority of the 427 ships were transports, and less expensive than man-o-wars, but the presence alone of such a fleet highlighted the resources of the mighty British Empire.

It took some incredible American ‘nads to stand and fight.

[ZULU]

“In June 2001 the Boston Globe published an article revealing that Ellis had lied to his students in lectures about American culture and the Vietnam War years by claiming to have fought in Vietnam, been active in civil rights campaigns in the south, and been an anti-war leader at Yale.[11]”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Ellis#Controversy_over_war_service

Does the Times and Ellis have an ulterior motive here, using this book to support a statist political thesis that a strong government is needed?

Do you think this book is worth reading Pharmboy? Right now I have “The Last Invasion” and “A Disease in the Public Mind” on hand to read.

[Venturer]

Today we struggle with a handful of famous men trying to destroy Republic
We struggle against insurmountable odds to save our Republic.

Our greatest struggle is with political correctness, White guilt, an administration that feels the Constitution is little more than toilet paper for them to wipe their nasty butts with.

We have thousand of perverts, baby-killers, Goody two shoe Americans who believe the country should accept anything and everything other countries send over here to pollute our citizenry with .

[capt B]

Go to Amazon and read the reviews of his “Founding Brothers” and check the 1,2 and 3 star reviews. Gives you an idea of this “historians” views