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Abstract-Critique of Third Party Report

In a recent report titled "Indications of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device containing hydrogen loaded nickel powder" [arXiv:1305.3913], G. Levi and co-workers put forth several claims concerning the operations and performance of the so-called E-Cat of Andrea Rossi. We note first of all that the circumstances and people involved in the test make if far from being an independent one. We examine the claims put forth by the authors and note that in many cases they are not supported by the facts given in the report. The authors seem to jump to conclusions fitting pre-conceived ideas where alternative explanations are possible. In general we find that much attention is drawn to trivialities while important pieces of information and investigation are lacking and seem not to have been conducted or considered. These are characteristics more typically found in pseudo-scientific texts and have no place in a technical/scientific report on this level. We also note that the proposed claims would require new physics in not only one but several areas. Besides a cold-fusion like process without production of any radiation also extreme new material properties would be needed to explain what rather seems to be a problem of correct measurement. Therefore, it is clear to us that a truly independent and scientific investigation of the so called E-Cat device, convincingly demonstrating an "anomalous heat energy production" has not been presented in the arXiv report and is thus, to-date, still lacking.

I know this would look better with some breaks, but this is how the Abstracts are formatted at arXiv. I thought it best to stick with the original (lack of) formatting.

1 posted on 07/02/2013 8:41:18 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

Third Party Report:

http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1305/1305.3913.pdf

Critique of Third Party Report:

http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1306/1306.6364.pdf

This version of the third party report includes additional details about how various measurements were made that were not available in the version of the thread that got dropped.


2 posted on 07/02/2013 8:41:44 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

Where their is anomalous heat, there is fusion.


3 posted on 07/02/2013 8:46:26 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: Wonder Warthog
Even by the most conservative assumptions as to the errors in the measurements, the result is still one order of magnitude greater than conventional energy sources.

The resulting HEAT is an order of magnitude greater? Are they saying that this is neither cold nor fusion?

4 posted on 07/02/2013 8:48:08 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Thanks for the report, WW.

It appears that this technology is getting closer and closer to being proven, which portends enormous, game changing impacts on the lives of everyone.

It’s a bright ray of sunshine in an otherwise dark period of time.


5 posted on 07/02/2013 8:50:24 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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Oh no, not this crap again. Is that you again, Kevmo?


6 posted on 07/02/2013 8:50:27 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.g)
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Can a hobbyist build a safe demonstrator of this effect?


7 posted on 07/02/2013 9:00:09 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Wonder Warthog; Kevmo
Very interesting!

Has any analysis of the 'end products' been performed? Is the nickle catalyst present in the original quantity? Did the amount of hydrogen present change?

Did the heat output during a run remain constant or did it change over time?

Regards,
GtG

11 posted on 07/02/2013 9:54:25 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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