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This is actually a pretty good conversation... on several issues..

A) Is man a mechanism in carnal form?.. to function in the 3rd dimension..
-OR-
B) Is man a spirit in a carnal space suit.?. to function in a 3D reality..

It seems you can buy Tale(A) or Tale(B) or even some sort of mix of them both.. This is the disconnect between the two forces.. with stragglers in between.. Somebody is a dreamer..

The dreamer could believe man is basically flesh and thats all he is..
Or the dreamer could believe man is basically spirit and thats all he is..

That man is both flesh and spirit conflates both.. but ignores man does not know what “life(death) really is” OR spirit either.. Good convo I would say.. There is room to speculate on both.. because it is all speculation..

The spectre of physical or spiritual “dimensions” on this subject takes the convo to another level.. Not that any resolution is due or even possible..

If man is a mechanical life-form then we are “drones”.. or “breeders”..
If man is a spiritual life-form then we are “entity’s”.. or “forces”..

or a conflated confused mix... Damned good entertainment I would say..