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Pa. county paying bounty for wood-burning boilers
Youngstown Vindicator ^ | 8/09/2013 | AP

Posted on 08/10/2013 8:47:02 PM PDT by fone

Edited on 08/11/2013 8:10:39 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

PITTSBURGH (AP)

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: agenda21; allegheny; woodstoves
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All your sources of energy are belong to us.

Seriously, where does it end?

1 posted on 08/10/2013 8:47:02 PM PDT by fone
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ping.


2 posted on 08/10/2013 8:57:05 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: fone

I used to get $200 just in scrap metal alone from a wood burning stove.

The trade-in ain’t worth it. But knowing this area pretty well, I would say they’ll make it illegal to burn wood.

I moved to Pennsylvania because I said “These people will never let their lifestyles go like New Englanders did”

I guess these aren’t my people either. Luckily, PA is a very large state that has WAY MORE self sufficient country folk than the news would have you believe.


3 posted on 08/10/2013 9:03:24 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: fone

Hey Allegheny County! FU! And I live here in “Agony County.”


4 posted on 08/10/2013 9:04:00 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("The good times are over and someone has heisted the Kawasaki." - Me)
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To: fone

I am very familiar with wood burning stoves and fireplaces, but who would have a wood burning water heater in their home?
That must be a Yankee thing. Is it still legal to use a fireplace in your home?


5 posted on 08/10/2013 9:08:02 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: fone

You can have my 1927 Wards Bengal Patented wood stove when you pry it from my warm dead hands.


6 posted on 08/10/2013 9:17:11 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (I'm so conservative I won't even wear progressive bifocals.)
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To: AlexW
I am very familiar with wood burning stoves and fireplaces, but who would have a wood burning water heater in their home?

That must be a Yankee thing. Is it still legal to use a fireplace in your home?

These are not the traditional wood burning stoves that are inside houses. They are specially designed outdoor located boilers that make hot water which is piped through the house in order to heat the house.

They are appealing because the wood fuel has a very low monetary cost in many rural areas. Unfortunately, they produce huge amounts of smoke because the combustion is at low temperatures. The owner locates the burner/boiler away from his house, near the property line. He gets the hot water, the neighbors get the smoke.

7 posted on 08/10/2013 9:36:58 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: fone

I know a guy who has a wood-burning boiler. It burns sawdust. Seems real clean to me.


8 posted on 08/10/2013 9:37:57 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: CurlyDave

Thanks for that info. Being a southern boy, I knew only electric and natural gas for heating water.
We did, of course have fireplaces and wood burning stoves
in the house or shop buildings.


9 posted on 08/10/2013 9:46:06 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW

we have a wood burner in our house...here in Pennsylvania..we also have acreage and so we have a wood supply, have NEVER paid for wood..

our wood burner heats our house the entire winter...but just get tired of the mess and dust...but sure is nice to have a toasty warm house when the winds blow out the electric in the country!!!! we also have a propane gas furnace, so we don’t depend on the wood burner as much as we use to...hubby keeps our chimney cleaned, and we only use cured dried wood..thanks to obama and the cost of fuel, many folks depends on wood heat...

and with the cost of heating oil it is a great saving...many, many homes here heat with wood, coal...and many have out door furnace, the one disadvantage of those it you have to keep them burning 24/7 every day...all year long, year after year...ugh...some even burn their trash in them...that is becoming a problem...


10 posted on 08/10/2013 10:07:53 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: haircutter

Yes, when I lived in Tennessee, I had over 200 acres from which to harvest fire wood. I have also had wood stoves and fireplaces, but also a 500 gallon propane tank for gas heat and cooking.
I did not know anyone that had wood heat for domestic hot water supply or kitchen cooking. That is new to me.


11 posted on 08/10/2013 10:20:32 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: Celerity

“These people will never let their lifestyles go like New Englanders did.”

I live in Maine which is, as you know, part of New England. The use of wood burning stoves and/or fireplaces in this state is commonplace, which makes sense, since Maine is the most “wooded” state in America.

Some people, however, have switched over from firewood stoves to pellet stoves.


12 posted on 08/10/2013 10:35:54 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a chain of convenience stores.)
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To: AlexW

It is a wood burner outside that boils water for circulating hot water heat in the house.


13 posted on 08/10/2013 10:36:01 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

“It is a wood burner outside that boils water for circulating hot water heat in the house.”
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Yes, I understand what it is, but I have never seen one.
On average, how often does one have to stoke it? Do they have auto-feeders? wood pellets? Does one have to stoke it first thing every morning?


14 posted on 08/10/2013 10:50:55 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW

Up here in Canuck land—twice a day to stoke. In our last rental we had one that heated both the house we were renting and the house next door (which belonged to the land lady’s sister). I still prefer the indoor wood stove—we have two of them up here. Most people in our area heat with wood (of course there aren’t that many people).


15 posted on 08/10/2013 11:16:37 PM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: AlexW
...Being a southern boy,...

Yep, it's a northern thing. Big out west, Montana, Idaho...etc.

16 posted on 08/11/2013 12:14:16 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: haircutter
...when the winds blow out the electric in the country!!!!

Do what is best for you and your family.

U.S. electrical grid is improved but remains vulnerable 10 years after Northeast blackout

17 posted on 08/11/2013 5:36:25 AM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: fone

One Winter at Fort Carson my unit did not have stoves for a field exercise we were scheduled for. I figured we would simply build a fire (in a burn barrel of course) to keep warm. I checked with Range Control and was told we couldn’t because we had to have an “environmental impact statement” done by the post! My response was “It’s wood! People have been burning wood forever!”

Still we were not allowed. Instead we finally got some old pot bellied stoves. We had to burn them on high to burn off the oil they came with. Made one hell of a black cloud and covered everything near them in soot. No “environmental impact statement” was needed for that though.


18 posted on 08/11/2013 5:50:38 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: AlexW

An illustration, but a good one depicting the style common around here in SW Pa.

The dairy farmer I get my milk from says that it is, indeed economical

Burns 4 foot logs (or not) and has year 'round heat (water radiators) and hot water.

20 posted on 08/11/2013 6:07:54 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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