Posted on 11/05/2013 7:24:34 PM PST by FlJoePa
Long, brutal radio interview between Slaten/Ziegler. Calls out the fools that believe the narrative. The evidence IS overwhelming. And it's on real Penn Stater's and Joe's side. Hate on haters. You believe, and support media lies.
FYI - interesting Ziegler and Slaten stuff.
Rot in hell Paterno
You believe media lies. Must suck to be you. Maybe you should listen to the interview. Nahh...
If I were the coach, I would not have passed the buck. I would have called the Sheriff Dept., the Chief of Police, the FBI, the governor's office and DOJ.
But you see, I would have more concerned about the victims than my/school rep.
So you didn’t listen to the audio either, yet felt compelled to comment on it?
The PSU B.O.T. power block is/was made up of ceo’s of US Steel, BNY Mellon, Merck, and others. They took a corporate approach of accepting guilt in an effort to “move on”, while inviting bogus victims and claims to line up to the PSU cash machine.
They underestimated the alums and their resolve. They are basically lying crooks that sold the University’s soul for their stock prices.
We’ve gotten rid of Surma - both from the bot and US Steel - and miraculously, their stock prices have rebounded. We’ll do the same with Peetz (BNY Mellon) and Frazier (Merck). They are as crooked as snakes and have done PSU more damage than anyone outside the information circle could ever believe.
You can hate PSU all you want, but if you have any mutual funds that involve Peetz or Frazier, I would strongly advise you to get rid of them because there is a train coming down a track with their names on them.
Surma was outed as crooked early on. Peetz and Frazier still have reputations. For now.
And some naive people thought Condi Rice would come work for these crooks. hahahahahaha
He says the Paterno Legacy is very much alive. BTW, Cefalo talks about one of the greatest self-motivational exercises ever. Long before douches like tony robbins picked up on it. Very strong message.
Just my two cents and I am NOT an expert on football at all, BUT.....
Ziegler understands that the MSM/ESPN does not want the truth. He is correct on that. So-—why did they want Paterno destroyed? What is their agenda?????
The elites control the media-—and have an iron grip on “perceptions” and “what” people are allowed to “think”-—and they can destroy anyone who goes off their script—even a person as powerful and loved as Paterno who has proven himself over decades to be a great person. It is an interesting case.
So-—the agenda of the MSM. There are two-—One—to emasculate boys—destroy healthy mature male role models like Paterno, and -—Two-—homosexualize the boys-—force perverted ideas into the minds of boys so they will have a warped “view” of sexual behavior and be fixated in immaturity (narcissism/idolatry).
So-—you will see no truth coming from the NWO Marxist people—none-—because the Laws of Nature are what allows for Reason/Logic and understanding of Reality. There is no truth in law anymore-—God’s Laws are mocked as are the Laws of Nature-—to collapse Virtue which collapses countries (their aim) and Paterno was on their “hit” list simply because Football is the next Tradition which is being erased.
Truth doesn’t exist anymore-—everyone is used for the one world agenda which needs mature masculinity in boys destroyed. “Homosexual” marriage is being modeled to children in the USA now (normalizing Satanic, muslim, pagan ethics) while erasing Christian Ethics and Reason/logic in children).
Tearing down Paterno—will help tear down Traditions (Marxism erases all Traditions like our Founding and Christian ones) so that children will not be able to understand history—the past. That way kids will believe any irrational thing the MSM puts out-—like the masses did on the Paterno trial....all perceptions which the MSM controlled. No truth.
Paterno was just another part of the bigger target of the Leftist: Football and Masculinity. Truth can not exist in a Marxist world—and there is never any Justice.
It’s part media and part PSU board of trustees. We’re having to fight two wars here. Ziegler, Slaten, Franco, and Ray Blehar are all tied to this. They believe the truth will come out, and they will sacrifice their very livelihoods to see that it does. I commend them, and I wish others would realize what a hatchet job Freeh and the media did here. Sadly, most seem to think the worst.
Doesn’t bother me though. I will still look for the truth, and hopefully see that the corrupt agencies in PA pay for their sins, and kids are actually protected. The truth will come out and it will have Rendell and Corbett involved much more than Joe.
Joe was an honorable man. Period, the end.
Listened to the whole thing. I encourage everyone to do so - if they want to understand the truth - and so they don’t make fools of themselves. Very enlightening. Another example of the power of the mainstream media (ESPN in this case) to shape public opinion.
The narrative that Joe Paterno was an evil pedophile protector - is like the narrative that said Obama would be the savior of our nation.
If fools hear things over and over on TV, they believe it.
I would hope that FReepers would be less susceptible to this phenomenon, but apparently not.
The truth will come out.
Please do not comment before listening to the interview.
It’s sad that so many here - where I used to think the media was not trusted with anything - believe what they’ve been told. Those that comment and post pedo pictures don’t want to be educated. They like the narrative just the way it is. Even if it is completely false and wrong. They don’t care that a great man’s reputation and legacy were destroyed. Like I said, it’s very sad and disheartening.
I encourage everyone to do so - if they want to understand the truth - and so they don’t make fools of themselves.
...I’ve listened to Ziegler...shouts a lot...never a great sign for credibility...
Another example of the power of the mainstream media (ESPN in this case) to shape public opinion.
...no one denies that the media posits phony narratives...but hate to break it to you...ESPN forms none of my opinions...
The narrative that Joe Paterno was an evil pedophile protector
...since no media narrative drives my interest in this situation, I have never believed any such thing...nor do I believe everyone evincing criticism of Paterno believes any such thing...I do believe in the concept of ‘scrutiny’ however...and I think part of the problem with Paterno supporters is their willing suspension of acknowledgement that ‘scrutiny’ does not equal ‘attack’...
...I’m on record as not accepting the notion that Paterno did not know about Sandusky and the shower mishap investigation in 1999, and I’ve also stipulated that his commentary on not getting more being involved because Sandusky no longer reported to him rang hollow, as he was responsible for Sandusky’s presence in the first place...those things raise questions for me, about both his honesty and honor...
...after due consideration, I think the situation boils down to this: nobody at PSU ever sat down together and said ‘we must cover this up, because our image will suffer’...there would have been no need to do so, because I don’t think anybody involved truly believed this situation would ever see the light of day...and they would have been correct in that assumption...except they could not have foreseen Sandusky going to a high school and groping and making creepy overtures to a student I suggest you read Victim #1’s book, it is a lot more enlightening than Ziegler will ever be)...so while I must accept that the concerted cover up story is not likely, it certainly wasn’t anybody’s finest hour at PSU...
I base my opinions largely on Paterno's own words. Read the court transcripts. Sucks to be a bread and circus man like you.
A good article on the evil Paterno apologists. I wish Paterno had died in prison where he belonged. He escaped justice.
Doyel is an uninformed asshole. Those that even bother to click on his links are obviously less than that.
V1 doesn’t really deserve the credibility you are ascribing to him. His - and his family’s - history doesn’t really lend itself to such.
Why/How was Joe responsible for js’s emeritus status, when it was granted by Spanier and signed off on by current president erickson (aka - the biggest apologetic pussy ever known to walk the face of the earth)?
Why haven’t any of the three on trial flipped on each other? More easily, why don’t they flip on Joe and blame it on the dead guy? Maybe because they are just hell bent on telling the truth? Naahhh...
Joe didn’t know about 1998 because it would have been illegal for him to know about it. This is a ridiculous argument anyway because 1998 was a joke to begin with. If 1998 was so serious, why did V1’s mother allow V1 to pal around w/ js for another THIRTEEN years?
She conveniently became outraged when the $$$ signs flashed in her eyes. Everyone in the know is aware what she is all about. She basically laid out her plan on facebook. New cars, trucks, house, etc.
Stop believing these liars and thieves. It makes you look stupid.
You may not like Ziegler, but he knows more about this than anyone. He has zero PSU ties and has made zero money off this.
Wake up!
V1 doesn’t really deserve the credibility you are ascribing to him. His - and his family’s - history doesn’t really lend itself to such.
...ah yes...I figured it wouldn’t be long before you showed up bashing the kid...and you didn’t disappoint...
Why/How was Joe responsible for js’s emeritus status,
...my my, I must take back my compliment of you not disappointing....emeritus indeed, how unworthy...so I guess Erickson also hired Sandusky back in 1969 as assistant football coach...Joepa was just an observer...
Joe didn’t know about 1998 because it would have been illegal for him to know about it.
...goodness me, I didn’t know that...changes everything...illegal..? You mean, if he somehow found out about it, he’d have gone to jail...? Was it illegal for Schultz to know too? How come he didn’t go to jail, then...?
This is a ridiculous argument anyway because 1998 was a joke to begin with. If 1998 was so serious, why did V1’s mother allow V1 to pal around w/ js for another THIRTEEN years?
...really, I must insist you calm down...you become so illogical when you get mad you’re no fun to banter with...well actually you’re not so illogical as just devious, because anyone that knows anything knows the 1998 boy was V6, not V1, but why should facts get in the way of your merry little screeds...
She conveniently became outraged when the $$$ signs flashed in her eyes. Everyone in the know is aware what she is all about...
...actually, no dollar signs were flashing in anybody’s eyes for three years after V1 went public...but you know that...how it took three cracks at Pennsylvania’s legal system to convene a grand jury...how V1’s football coach outed him, and he received death threats and had to move a couple of times...yeah. I’m sure all three of those years she was just figuring which new car and truck her son’s ordeal was going to get her...but, hey, you say you’re in the know, so I’m guessing you know the woman personally...
Stop believing these liars and thieves
...my, my...you really are a bitter, demented little whatever, aren’t you...
You may not like Ziegler, but he knows more about this than anyone. He has zero PSU ties and has made zero money off this.
...I think Ziegler is an unhinged conspiracy hound, who thinks Bill Clinton is responsible for 9/11 and that Obama got elected because the press was mean to Palin...and please spare me the bit about doing this out of the goodness of his heart, I don’t want to cry this early in the morning...
...by the way, do you and Ziegler have your ‘Free Sandusky’ tee shirts ready for market yet...?
The truth will come out and it will have Rendell and Corbett involved much more than Joe.
...you know, I just remembered...it wasn’t all that long ago you came on here god-blessing Corbett for bringing a lawsuit against the NCAA...so which is it...is Corbett a saint or a sinner...he can’t be both, now, can he...?
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