Posted on 10/12/2014 8:51:00 AM PDT by rktman
To those who buy the romanticized image of labor unions - those brave champions of the working man who work day and night to protect the best interests of just plain folks against the robber barons in the boardrooms and the plush corporate offices - it’s hard to conceive of why anyone would not want to join the United Auto Workers.
Democrats who hate right-to-work laws in states that have them deride said laws as “right to work for less.” You dumbasses! Why would you not join the union when it’s going to get you more money and protect you from getting fired if you operate machinery drunk and stoned? You don’t know what’s good for you!
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It’s far better to be a “scab” than a slug. The only people who benefit from unions are the union bosses (no different from crony capitalists) and the worthless slugs who would be fired for their lack of productivity if the union didn’t protect them. I’m proud not to have ever been a slug.
union scum alert
Unions are just leeches on the company and the working man.
Its a considered a sin to betray fellow workers. That’s why no one does it. You have to look in the eyes of people you work with every day.
And when your local authorizes a strike, every one has a duty to man the picket lines and ensure that pressure is kept on the company to return to negotiations. That’s the way its always worked.
Union locals are in exercise in workplace democracy. Nothing happens without the members voting to authorize it.
Right to Work is not the right to bargain. If you work in a union shop you are still bound by the union wage and benefits contract. How Right to Work undermines the unions, apart from denying them dues, is by weakening the union seniority system.
Never get tired of posting this...
I’m distressed by the fact that the emerging narrative on unions, (even among conservatives, and this is horrifying for what it means for the future of the country) seems to run like this,
“Public sector unions are REALLY bad. There are some bad things in private sector unions, too, but they aren’t pure evil like public sector unions. Private sector unions, especially at the turn of the century, were actually pretty good.”
This is pure BS! It is very, very, very scary when, even here on FR for Pete’s sake, people do not recognize the following two things:
Unions can ONLY!!!! exist because of government force applied selectively against private property owners (evil rich people),
ALL UNIONS REPRESENT GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED THEFT OF PRIVATE PROPERTY FOR THE PURPOSE OF BUYING DEMOCRAT VOTES.
I expect ignorance of this fact elsewhere, but here on FR??????????????????????
Here’s how the purely evil, anti-American, communistic, welfare-begging private sector unions work…..
I set up a business, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY (my capital and/or cash money).
I pay for the space, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I pay the taxes using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I supply the parts and inventory, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I pay for the insurance, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I pay the labor, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I recruit, hire, and advertise, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
Oftentimes an entire life’s savings (MY PRIVATE PROPERTY) is at stake.
My future, my standing in the community, my credit, and MY PRIVATE PROPERTY are all at stake.
If I fail, I stand a good chance of being economically crippled for life.
One day, on MY PRIVATE PROPERTY that I own and acquired using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY, one of my employees, who is only in my presence because of the risk of MY PRIVATE PROPERTY, comes to me and says, “Here’s the story, Bub. From this moment forward I am going to begin organizing YOUR OTHER EMPLOYEES, to work AGAINST YOUR PRIVATE INTERESTS and do everything in our power to TAKE BY FORCE AS MUCH OF YOUR PRIVATE PROPERTY AS WE CAN GET OUR HANDS ON. We are going to spend a great deal of time and effort ORGANIZING AGAINST YOUR INTERESTS TO DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO GROW STRONGER AT YOUR EXPENSE, IN ORDER TO TAKE YOUR MONEY. You might as well have your business competitors working here on the shop floor. If you do not agree to our demands, we will go on strike, make your life miserable, harass and threaten and/or MURDER IN COLD BLOOD anybody you may want to hire in our place.”
Now the one and ONLY way that such a thing could EVER take place is for the government to step in and say, “Mr. Employer (rich, white, capitalist, male), if you fire this union man, you are going to jail.”
Plainly and simply, no union could ever exist in a free society. Yes, in a free society, you should be able to form and join a union of any type at any time for any purpose whatsoever. AND YOUR EMPLOYER SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIRE YOUR HAPPY ASS IN A HEARTBEAT FOR DOING SO.
FREEDOM IS A TWO WAY STREET.
I find this ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. Truly. A man strolls onto the PRIVATE PROPERTY of another man and tells him how he will employ his PRIVATE PROPERTY going forward, OR ELSE!, and hundreds of millions, if not billions, of people the world over think that the first man is not only somehow better than sub-human filth, they actually see him as a hero! To me, this is one of the most perverse and mystifying examples of twisted human thinking the world has ever seen. I can’t say it enough; you come onto my PRIVATE PROPERTY, and bargain with me, using the THREAT OF GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED FORCE, about how much of my PRIVATE PROPERTY you will allow me to keep! And this is somehow acceptable?
As I say, even conservatives, (who have escaped the liberal brainwashing that begins when we are still in the womb on guns, race, US history, etc., etc., and do not subscribe to the easy notions that are so readily picked up by the unthinking) seem to fall for this trap. Seem to believe that…
“The work place is filled with mean managers and mean bosses who were/are really mean to kids and women and workers and paid them pennies instead of the legitimate millions that they were REALLY worth, making evil white male capitalists even richer, and they enslaved them and coerced them and made them work real hard and were really, really mean. THANK GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for the government stepping in and saving women and children from mean bosses and really mean white capitalist men.”
Needless to say, each and every single word of that narrative is as totally false and ridiculous as the liberal narrative on US history, or bad guns, or evil white men. If you know people who believe that stuff, you cannot help them. DO NOT waste your breath on them, DO NOT do their research for them; have them read Sowell or Williams or von Hayek, or von Mises, or Friedman, or even Stossel when they write of “sweatshops” either in today’s 3rd world or in America at the turn of the century.
“You didn’t build that.” - Barack Hussein Obama, red diaper doper baby
Maybe. But their actions are an exercise in theft. Occupying someone's property or using the government to force them to submit to your demands when they would otherwise just hire replacements is hardly innocent or fair. Property rights matter more than democracy. If they didn't we'd all be communists (and poor).
“it’s hard to conceive of why anyone would not want to join the United Auto Workers.”
The 220,000 people that once worked for GM might disagree.
And speaking of those folks, how’s that “join the union and we’ll protect your job” working out for you?
The union goons will have no sympathy from Americans if one of those “scabs” takes particular umbrage and goes postal on their staffers.
Exactly what I was going to post. Looks at the teachers union in Wisconsin as an example. When given the choice most walked away from the union after having been forced to join in the first place.
Thugs plain and simple. Any attempt to mess with the power structure’s rice bowl and they expose themselves for what they are. They’re worse than the Mafia.
The Unions have BECOME the evil robber barons they were created to fight.
"It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." -Joseph Stalin
Seriously, aren't we talking about people who consider subversion and corruption of the public electoral process to be part of their job description?
Somebody probably needs to contact a lawyer .. how about suing the union for violating their privacy; putting them in harms way; giving aid and comfort to crooks all over the city, etc., etc., etc.
Time to stand up and let the unions know they are not the be all end all in the world.
A huge company where I live did just that. The “scabs” organized - and it made the unions back down. They did it by exposing where all the union money went.
Always remember, the left cannot withstand the truth; as long as you don’t give up.
Unions are an exercise in workplace extortion. They have to be. Unless the union has a way to intimidate potential replacements, then a strike would just be a mass resignation.
Employees need to have the right to resign from the union, without fear of violent reprisal. Employers need the right to say to strikers: "You can stop picketing. You are all fired. You have all been replaced."
If the Neanderthals want to do something useful, why don’t they publish the names of all of the people who don’t pay income taxes.
Well said, and you have never heard me say anything kind about any union.
Democracy is an unstable and malignant form of governance, rejected by the Founding Fathers. E.g., Federalist number 10:
a pure democracy, by which I mean a society consisting of a small number of citizens, who assemble and administer the government in person, can admit of no cure for the mischiefs of faction. A common passion or interest will, in almost every case, be felt by a majority of the whole; a communication and concert result from the form of government itself; and there is nothing to check the inducements to sacrifice the weaker party or an obnoxious individual. (emphasis added)
A lynch mob is a democracy.
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