EXPLAINED: Why Texas will Secede from Union

Alternative Media youtube ^ | November 17, 2013 | Christopher Greene Alternative Media

[onyx]

Sweetest you. If Texas secedes, can you even begin to imagine that mad dash?

[onyx]

I love that area! I’m so happy for you!!
No, I’m doing poorly, but that’s another story.
I’m severely depressed.

[onyx]

Yes! I hope Texas secedes!
I love Texas!

[BigSkyFreeper]

Texas, here I come.
SERIOUSLY.

Seriesly Chief?

:)

[onyx]

Hiya Chief!
Indeed! If Texas secedes, it’s Texas here I come!
GOOD to see you.
XOXOXO

[BigSkyFreeper]

You too! XOXOXO

The way things are going, I may move to Texas too. LOL

[onyx]

THAT would be great, NEIGHBOR!

[BigSkyFreeper]

I can take comfort in the fact that the Democrats lost 9 seats in the statehouse here in South Dakota. That’s 9 fewer Democrats than they started with. The Democrat party is an endangered species here. They got shellacked here too. :)

[Windflier]

Texas, here I come. SERIOUSLY.

Onyx, my dear, I realized that Texas would be the final 'safe ground' years ago. That's why I moved my wife and kids here nine years ago.

If you need a safe haven to plant your stake here, you only need ask. There are a lot of Texans who would be more than happy to help you make the transition.

[SkyPilot]

Austin is loaded with Boston liberals

It is also loaded with homosexuals.

[DoodleDawg]

Well....that really tells us what you think about the Bible, its inspiration...and the ability of God to see eternally.

More about amateur analysts than the Bible itself.

[Para-Ord.45]

T v W

“The Union of the States never was a purely artificial and [74 U.S. 700, 725] arbitrary relation. It began among the Colonies, and grew out of common origin, mutual sympathies, kindred principles, similar interests, and geographical relations. It was confirmed and strengthened by the necessities of war, and received definite form, and character, and sanction from the Articles of Confederation. By these the Union was solemnly declared to ‘be perpetual.‘

And when these Articles were found to be inadequate to the exigencies of the country, the Constitution was ordained ‘to form a more perfect Union.’

It is difficult to convey the idea of indissoluble unity more clearly than by these words. What can be indissoluble if a perpetual Union, made more perfect, is not? “

[MamaTexan]

It is difficult to convey the idea of indissoluble unity more clearly than by these words. What can be indissoluble if a perpetual Union, made more perfect, is not? “

No, it is not. Particularly since secession by a State or a group of States doesn't 'dissolve' the Union, as the Union still exists....it merely changes the membership.

And as Tucker clearly stated, it's an ability the States possessed both before as well as after the writing of the Constitution.

[Para-Ord.45]

You may hold that opinion and feeling but you`re legally and factually wrong, end of story.

[MamaTexan]

Calling my position 'legally and factually wrong' doesn't make it so. The Founders constructed the Constitution the way they did to prevent the States from having to fight another war if being in the Union was no longer to their benefit.

Were the people regarded in this transaction as forming one nation, the will of the majority of the whole people of the United States, would bind the minority; in the same manner as the majority in each State must bind the minority; and the will of the majority must be determined either by a comparison of the individual votes; or by considering the will of a majority of the States, as evidence of the will of a majority of the people of the United States. Neither of these rules has been adopted. Each State in ratifying the Constitution, is considered as a sovereign body independent of all others, and only to be bound by its own voluntary act. In this relation then the new Constitution will, if established, be a federal and not a national Constitution.
Federalist, no. 39 James Madison, 16 Jan. 1788

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Texas vs White is nothing more than a governmental edict of forced association among the States, and there's nothing Constitutional about it.

[Para-Ord.45]

If you were factually accurate plenty of States would have left by now.
Hasn`t happened for good reason, reality.

Article I Section 10.

No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation... No state shall, without the consent of Congress, lay any duty of tonnage, keep troops, or ships of war in time of peace, enter into any agreement or compact with another state, or with a foreign power, or engage in war, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent danger as will not admit of delay.

[jpsb]

Texas does not have to secede, all Texas has to do is nullify the treaty/agreement via which the sovereign nation of Texas joined the United States of America. Treaty nullification is a common and well understood international process. The USA would not find much international support were it to forcablely oppose Texas nullifying it's agreement with the USA and reverting back to the Independent Republic of Texas.

[MamaTexan]

That's correct. A State of the United States is prohibited from certain acts by the Constitution.... but once a State leaves the Union, they are no longer part of the 'United States' and thus no longer bound by the terms of the compact.

[DoodleDawg]

Court findings can't trump the Constitution, and prior to the Constitution was something called the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union....which the Founders seceded from in order to form the United States.

The founders seceded from the United States in order to form the United States???

[MamaTexan]

Read it again.