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To: SunkenCiv
Gears and water (and blowing sand and dirt from the shore) would mess it up quickly on a ship of that day. It would be far too expensive a device for a ship when other devices for navigation were much far less expensive. And why would someone on a ship need to know when the Olympic games were to be held?

No, my guess is this device was built for the Greeks by the Babylonians that they had conquered and was being shipped by boat when it floundered. It was probably for a King's administration for telling the times of such events faithfully. It's value, at that time, is inestimable.

9 posted on 01/11/2015 2:56:16 AM PST by CptnObvious
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To: CptnObvious
It would be far too expensive a device for a ship when other devices for navigation were much far less expensive.
It's value, at that time, is inestimable.

I agree completely with your value estimate. When I think of just the DESIGN of this mechanism, my head swims. a box of 340cm Length (11.15") by 180cm W (5.90") by 90cm D (2.95") containing a minimum of 30 bronze gears and hand crank - WOW!!

There is a short but very interesting YouTube video of a London, English Museum Curator, Michael Wright, describing his multi-year effort to reconstruct the mechanism (2008). Given that one side displays the visually retrograde movements of the 5 known planets of the time, that apparently were 'handled' by multiple gearing.

The Wikipedia article on this mechanism does indicate (at bottom) that the design was in advance of the available mechanical skill needed for the implementation. Still I would imagine that this entire mechanism required a very wealthy patron, a designer close in skill and knowledge to Archimedes and a master-level workshop and artisans to produce it over a period of years!

Indeed, it may be a push to assume that it really worked or worked reliably! It could have been the equivalent of a White Elephant, known to have great potential but so balky and cranky as to be totally frustrating!

12 posted on 01/11/2015 4:03:46 AM PST by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: CptnObvious

Why would the Babylonians need to know when the Olympic games were to be held? The machine is Greek in origin.


19 posted on 01/11/2015 4:21:44 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: CptnObvious
And why would someone on a ship need to know when the Olympic games were to be held?

Priorities. Gotta be back in port with a keg of beer for the start of the big game.

37 posted on 01/11/2015 7:45:21 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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