[cuban leaf]

So NASA and NOAA claim the last 10 years were the hottest on record, while others claim the last 17 years haven’t warmed at all - have shown a cooling trend.

So who is lying to us?

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This one is about surface temp only. One of the most unreliable measures due to this:
http://www.surfacestations.org/

[SierraWasp]

Immediately preceding this thread is this article!!!

[TexasFreeper2009]

lets just assume they are correct and the earth is getting hotter.

well.. guess what? mars is getting hotter too!

http://www.nature.com/news/2007/070402/full/news070402-5.html

And I don't see any men or SUV’s or oil pipeline there!

The fact is, we live in a dynamic ever changing solar system where even the smallest changes in that giant fire in the sky we call the sun affect not just us, but every other planet in the solar system.

To deny this obvious fact is pure insanity. It's pure human arrogance to assume WE the nothings sitting on speck of nothing could affect anything and deny the power of the massive colossal force we call the sun that is really in control.