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To: Usagi_yo

Pragmatists fail; their thoughts are concerned with presumed practicality regardless of morality, and a rejection of proven realities. Seeing evil succeed is what gets pragmatists going.

And he has too much sympathy towards Russia.


12 posted on 04/02/2015 1:11:06 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
As a "pragmatist" Pat Buchanan would be concerned about the answers to some questions:

1) does the United States support of Israel, when advantages are balanced against disadvantages, increase or decrease American national security and further or retard American national interests?

2) what vital national interests of the United States are at stake in Ukraine and do those interests, if there be any, warrant risking war with Russia?

3) which of our wars since 1950 have ended well and have actually improved American national security?

4) does the American network of far-flung military bases and interlocking treaty commitments compelling us to come to the defense of numerous nations around the world enhance or threaten American security?

5) are demographic forces at work at home and abroad far more powerful than our present defense posture can cope with as presently constituted?

6) are we actually squandering our depleting resources with foolhardy foreign commitments when we should be preserving our strength and restoring our economy and our morale?

I submit that the answers to all of these questions are not clear cut, that there are arguments on both sides and there is no "conservative" answer that all conservatives will agree upon. That is because Pat Buchanan is not so much a pragmatist as a paleo conservative and that is a conservative who does not see eye to eye with neoconservatives on foreign or domestic issues. Many conservatives of a libertarian persuasion would seek yet a third foreign policy yet all of these claim the mantle of conservatism or at least often find themselves in bed together.

Only when these sorts of questions are to be settled by unanimous agreement might it be appropriate to start accusing Pat Buchanan of anti-Semitism.


13 posted on 04/02/2015 1:49:40 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Olog-hai

“and a rejection of proven realities.”
You’re getting carried away. That’s the exact opposite of pragmatism.

“Seeing evil succeed is what gets pragmatists going.”
Going where?

Play poker for a few years. You’ll understand all about pragmatism.


16 posted on 04/02/2015 2:03:19 AM PDT by Usagi_yo (The declining morals of the West vs the increasingly brutal Jihadists. Coincidence?)
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