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To: Bob434
You have used a very long sentence to explain macro and microevolution. The beak example has never been experimentally proven, in fact, evolution cannot by definition be experimentally proven. It must be accepted on faith.
18 posted on 04/27/2015 4:05:55 PM PDT by Fungi (Job 26:7 : He stretcheth out the north over empty space, And hangeth the earth upon nothing.)
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To: Fungi

what do you mean it hasn’t been proven? Dog breeding proves that gene dominance changes features of species- while breeding dogs does include directed gene manipulation , it illustrates that features can and do dominate when certain qualities are needed for specific purposes. The hummingbird example is taken from actual studies done on some Hawaiian islands- the ones who’s beaks were not long enough could not feed- they died off, the ones with long enough beaks passed along their genes/traits/features to new generation

This isn’t macroevolution, it is species adaption- a much much different thing- and by the way- it was Christian scientists who discovered this long before Darwin was o n the scene- Species adaption does happen- it happened with gulls on islands who adapted to a point where they gan no logner mate with others of their kind-

Macroevolutionists tried claiming this was macroevolution, however it isn’t- nothing more than species adaption- the birds are still gulls, and will always remain gulls- no NEW non species specific information was created, and infact species specific information was lost or became dormant which is why they can’t mate with their own kind in different parts of the world now-

The hummingbird and gull examples did occur - but again, it’s not macroevolution- not even close- macroevolution is a scientific, biological, mathematical impossibility of the highest order - it can’t happen- species adaption and natural selection can and do happen, but are NOT macroevolution

Another adaption examples are the peppered moths- the ones that weren’t peppered died off because they were easily spotted by prey- the ones that were spotted blended in with their surroundings much better, and the species went on to adapt to the point where only peppered moths were born and dominated-

Creationists and Intelligent Design proponents do not question that species adaption happens as it has been shown scientifically to be a fact-


39 posted on 04/27/2015 8:35:45 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Fungi

if you care to read the following site, it talks about other examples of observed rapid species change/adaption which more thoroughly show that species did change when the environment demanded it- these cases were witnessed and recorded apparently- I don’t know this site, so I can’t vouch for their religious stance as I’ve not read where they stand, but this article seems to indicate they do not believe in macroevolution but have shown microevolution/adaption with the examples they gave-

http://creation.com/speedy-species-surprise

“Researchers in Trinidad relocated guppies (Poecilia reticulata) from a waterfall pool teeming with predators to previously guppy-free pools above the falls where there was only one known possible predator (of small guppies only, therefore large guppies would be safe).1 The descendants of the transplanted guppies adjusted to their new circumstances by growing bigger, maturing later, and having fewer and bigger offspring.”

There’s more- where they transplanted other species and observed the rapid changes- but again, guppies remained guppies, lizards remained lizards- and no new non species specific information was ever created- and so this was not examples of macroevolution - just microevolution/adaption


43 posted on 04/27/2015 8:50:31 PM PDT by Bob434
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