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Unions walking over the dead again.
1 posted on 05/19/2015 10:28:05 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

The union agreed to cutting down train crew size and getting rid of an extra front cab crewmember, the fireman, some time ago. It also agreed to eliminating a crew member position in the rear of the train by eliminating the caboose and replacing it with a tail light.


2 posted on 05/19/2015 10:38:57 AM PDT by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Olog-hai

I think we might be safer with no engineers. Those new locomotives are practically idiot proof, but Brandon Bostian still managed to crash one. Almost like it was done on purpose.


3 posted on 05/19/2015 10:40:04 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Olog-hai

If I applied this quote to the Real-Truth-Translator “There’s no reason why there shouldn’t be a 2nd engineer” would say “Dead bodies are a great way to lobby for more high paying union jobs.”


4 posted on 05/19/2015 10:40:16 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Changing the name of a thing doesn't change the thing. A liberal by any other name...)
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To: Olog-hai

Uh, that worked for Germanwings...


5 posted on 05/19/2015 10:40:35 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Olog-hai

which would (more or less) double the number of unionized engineers needed.


6 posted on 05/19/2015 10:40:42 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Olog-hai

Sure. This will only cost $1 billion more per year on the budget.....


7 posted on 05/19/2015 10:40:48 AM PDT by Gaffer
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So two crew members crash a train while playing poker, dominos, watching Netflix, having sex, ...............


10 posted on 05/19/2015 10:44:44 AM PDT by umgud (I never capitalize; muslim, islam or allah)
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To: Olog-hai
In Japan, unless the train was designed for one-man (known in Japan as wanman) operation, they usually two train crew: a driver in the front and a conductor at the end of the train. And the driver on main lines have a lot of safety systems operating to protect the train, especially the automatic train stop (ATS) sensors on the track to detect excessive speed or overrunning red signals.

What Amtrak must install are systems to monitor if the train is going on the track at excessive speed or running a red signal.

11 posted on 05/19/2015 10:49:55 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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No single man crews, period. The disaster in Ontario should be enough to persuade anyone.

Some railroads (a few, not many), are pushing for just an engineer, and no conductor or brakeman.

If you want one crew member running a train, then you would have no problem with only a pilot and no co-pilot or flight crew on a commercial airliner, or a captain of a ship, and no XO on board.

Amtrak is the epitome of a government run organization.


13 posted on 05/19/2015 10:58:12 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Olog-hai

Why? They will just both get amnesia and walk away unaccountable. Well, unless they are conservatives, especially of the unfavorable races and religions.


14 posted on 05/19/2015 10:58:23 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Olog-hai

But I thought it wasn’t the engineer’s fault?


17 posted on 05/19/2015 11:11:14 AM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: Olog-hai

I’m not sure having two gay engineers in the cab at the same time is going to improve safety.


19 posted on 05/19/2015 11:19:31 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Olog-hai

I bet they do.


22 posted on 05/19/2015 11:27:58 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Ok.. I am not a union fan..but I do agree with the reasoning for the need to have two engineers in the cab at the controls on any long haul..you can't just pull a train over like a car or a truck.. it is more akin to an aircraft that you would require two pilots for anything more then small short haul
23 posted on 05/19/2015 11:43:17 AM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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To: Olog-hai

I’m okay with having two engineers, as long as they split the wage between the two engineers.


25 posted on 05/19/2015 12:07:35 PM PDT by Marko413
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To: Olog-hai

Robots would be better.


27 posted on 05/19/2015 12:15:01 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Olog-hai

Putting two homos together in the engine cab for a long ride. What could possibly go wrong???


30 posted on 05/19/2015 12:44:45 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Olog-hai

This development was predicted by somsbody right here on FreeRepublic — the very day of the derailment.


31 posted on 05/19/2015 1:22:55 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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