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To: Codeflier

There is still the chance that a Convention of States can bring the government under control.


7 posted on 06/23/2015 2:15:12 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (A free society cannot let the parameters of its speech be set by murderous Islamists.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“There is still the chance that a Convention of States can bring the government under control.”

Uh no there isn’t. A convention of AR’s maybe. :-)


27 posted on 06/23/2015 2:19:35 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The basic problem with the state of this Republic is two-fold, imo. We should at least try to address these two things before throwing in the towel:

1. Failure to adhere to the founders’ vision of a limited government with enumerated powers, as articulated in the 10th amendment. Just think of the reduction of our concerns/fears of an “out of control” federal government if there was no EPA, Dept of Education, Dept of Health, Federal involvement in welfare/food stamps, etc, etc.

2. Failure to restrict or limit the amount of money (or spending authority) available to the federal government, thereby giving those in power a virtual blank check to continue amassing power and control over our every day lives (think something on the order of a Balanced Budget Amendment with an upper limit clearly defined and tied to the nation’s GDP, or something similar).

If this country addresses these two things, we would have an all new ballgame. Other pressing issues such as immigration, national defense and other foreign affairs matters, infrastructure such as the interstate highway system, how to fund the limited federal government (eg system of taxation, etc.) would be much more manageable it seems to me.

So, give up? I say no, not until this mechanism given to us by the founders (Convention of States) is given a good old-fashioned try.


152 posted on 06/23/2015 3:00:31 PM PDT by Let_It_Be_So (Once you see the Truth, you cannot "unsee" it, no matter how hard you may try.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

no it won’t

You change change the Constitution but they will continue to ignore it

The same bunch will still be running things, the same people running schools, the same people running the media, the same people running everything


251 posted on 06/23/2015 4:36:21 PM PDT by GeronL
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